# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5162 "2024-03-28T20:28:54Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> He wanted to buy cheap vodka (or other spirit) and put it into ‘fancy’ bottles to sell at an inflated price.

It’s not a terrible scheme for a crook.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5163 "2024-03-28T21:26:47Z")

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That is more or less what [Grey Goose](https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590022606/is-there-really-a-difference-between-expensive-vodka-and-cheap-vodka) did.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5164 "2024-03-28T21:52:18Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > He wanted to buy cheap vodka (or other spirit) and put it into ‘fancy’ bottles to sell at an inflated price.
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> It’s not a terrible scheme for a crook.

Isn’t that what all vodka is? I’ve tried Gordon’s (\< $20/1.5L), Grey Goose, and Tito’s and could not tell the difference.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5165 "2024-03-28T21:59:43Z")

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I’ve found that the fancier a vodka is, the less I can taste it. This really fucked me up, too much, so I bought Smirnoff.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5166 "2024-03-28T22:25:30Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> That is more or less what [Grey Goose](https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590022606/is-there-really-a-difference-between-expensive-vodka-and-cheap-vodka) did.

As a ~~vodka connoisseur~~  ~~raging alcoholic~~ or whatever I am, I agree with that assessment. It’s not that subtle differences between types of vodka don’t exist – they do – it’s that they’re subtle, and Grey Goose doesn’t even have the subtlety, IMHO. I’m pretty sure this was why Trump branched out into Trump Vodka – and failed at it just like he failed at everything else.

My standard vodka is Absolut, from Sweden, which is just simply plain good vodka with no pretensions that makes great Caesars and with a very subtle smooth and almost caramel taste on ice. Other vodkas are OK but I prefer Absolut. “Trump Vodka” was probably mixed from some combo of methyl and isopropyl alcohols and tap water. I’m sure he never touched the stuff himself.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5167 "2024-03-28T23:08:34Z")

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When I was a teenager I put tap water into the vodka bottle. Didn’t work for me either.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5168 "2024-03-28T23:43:02Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> That is more or less what [Grey Goose](https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590022606/is-there-really-a-difference-between-expensive-vodka-and-cheap-vodka) did.

And what Coca-Cola did with [Dasani water](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani) in the UK. They took tap water from a London suburb and managed to make it _less_ healthy during processing.

Vodka-wise I drink Krupnik. It’s not Russian (it’s Polish), it’s cheap, and it’s good enough as a mixer for my unsophisticated palate.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5169 "2024-03-28T23:46:57Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> If you got it down to a lump of carbon you could grill something edible over it.

I could totally see Trump doing this. Would this be the equivalent of lighting a cigar with a $100 bill? Stupid, wasteful, ostentatious to the point of absurdity? Yeah I can see that.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5170 "2024-03-28T23:48:18Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> How would you say ‘Don’t stick your dick in the crazy’ in Latin? I tried _Ne in insanis pene haereas_, but on re-translation it came out ‘Don’t get stuck in a crazy situation’ in Google Translate. ‘Do not insert your penis into a crazy person’ came out as _Noli mentula in furiosum hominem inserere_ – 'Don’t put your brains in a mad man…

Noli verpam in dementem trudere.

And Google Translate is just generally bad at understanding obscene invective in Latin.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5171 "2024-03-28T23:58:04Z")

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> **[Georgia judge rules that Republican Brian K. Pritchard voted illegally](https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-judge-rules-that-republican-brian-k-pritchard-voted-illegally/M4A27QQNQJDW7MTI66MRF5B4EQ/)**
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> A judge ruled that Georgia Republican Party Vice Chairman Brian K. Pritchard voted illegally nine times while serving a felony sentence for check forgery.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5172 "2024-03-29T00:00:57Z")

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He seems nice.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5173 "2024-03-29T00:37:14Z")

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At least they’re working on illegal voting like that.

> **[Georgia Republicans pass sweeping voting restrictions](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-voting-bill-restricting-early-voting-signed-into-law-governor-kemp/)**
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> It is part of a wave of GOP-backed election bills introduced in states around the nation.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5174 "2024-03-29T00:45:16Z")

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I would find it absolutely hilarious if all these voting restrictions Republicans are putting/trying to put in place end up catching far more Trump supporters voting illegally than Biden supporters. That seems to have been the case over the last 4 years. I haven’t heard of many (any?) Democrats being caught the voting illegally at all. It always seems to be Trump supporters.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5175 "2024-03-29T01:19:41Z")

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There’s a question that just occurred to me. And I’m sure it’s been discussed on the board ad nauseam in the past and if someone would like to point me to a thread I would be glad to go there and read it.

My question is this: what happens to votes that are deemed to have been cast illegally? Are they struck from the historical record? They can’t be allowed to just stand right? And what if it’s found that a candidate won an election only because of fraudulent ballots? Is that candidate removed from office if they’ve already taken it? Is that possible? There’s probably legal procedures that I’m not aware of that would need to go through the system first.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5176 "2024-03-29T02:32:57Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> My question is this: what happens to votes that are deemed to have been cast illegally?

As far as I’m aware, even if we know that someone voted illegally, we can’t know who they voted for. In the case that Fear\_Itself posted about, it’s probably safe to assume that the Republican Party Vice Chairman voted for Republicans, but we’ll never know for sure. Can’t correct the vote tally if we don’t know what the fraudulent votes were.

All of which casts some doubt on how sincere and well-thought-out are the arguments that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5177 "2024-03-29T02:47:04Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> As far as I’m aware, even if we know that someone voted illegally, we can’t know who they voted for.

That is a fantastic point that I have failed to consider. I’ve seen those videos of poll workers opening ballot envelopes and stacking ballots on the table in front of them for counting later.

As voting is anonymous there would be no way to know for certain which way a given person voted. Even if the specific person told you who they voted for without being able to connect them to an actual ballot there’s no way to corroborate that or separate them out as they all look the same once they’re removed from their envelope.

Does this mean if someone stuffs illegal ballots at a given polling place, and it’s not caught till after the votes are counted, that person has to just be left in office short of impeachment? (Question is meant to the thread in general, not to Robot \_Arm specifically.)

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The Biden campaign’s Twitter account shares Trump’s “leaked” campaign schedule;

> [@](#):
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> _8 AM: hair_
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> _10 AM: hide in basement_
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> _12 PM: lunch with white nationalists_
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> _1 PM: try to sell special TRUMP-APPROVED Bibles to pay bills_
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> _1:30 PM: Project 2025 planning call_
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> _2 PM: hide in basement_
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> _5 PM: sit in golf cart_
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> _6:30 PM: hide in basement_
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> _10 PM: begin posting disturbed, confused, typo-riddled rants on Truth Social_

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1773417798158479848>

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5179 "2024-03-29T05:03:03Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> A childhood friend has always exhibited the symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder. He’s like Trump without the (alleged) money. Of course he’s a Trump supporter. Before Trump, he told me about a scheme he had (which I don’t think he ever followed through on). He wanted to buy cheap vodka (or other spirit) and put it into ‘fancy’ bottles to sell at an inflated price.

So he basically invented Grey Goose.

ETA: ninja’d!

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5180 "2024-03-29T08:16:10Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The Biden campaign’s Twitter account shares Trump’s “leaked” campaign schedule;

Haha!

Not enough TV though.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5181 "2024-03-29T10:00:06Z")

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Needs more ‘ketchup throwing time’.

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