# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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I glanced online at Donald’s truth social posting. He’s been on a tear today, posting shit every hour or so (including a demand that he and Biden debate).

But the best is his all caps question, ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE FOUR YEARS AGO?

To secure the vote of those who long for the days of toilet paper shortages.

> **[Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112249681385817266)**
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> Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
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It is with great amusement that I’m reading about Arizona’s Republican death rattle over the abortion law from the 1800s. Republicans are falling all over themselves to try to distance themselves from the decision, including that Kari Lake bitch. You made your bed, boys and girls, now wallow in it. Democrats are gleefully blocking any attempts to repeal the law, and the Pubies adjourned to avoid a blood bath.

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Democrats are gleefully blocking any attempts to repeal the law

Interesting.

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Yeah, I can’t decide if I agree with this strategy or not.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Democrats are gleefully blocking any attempts to repeal the law

Are they? Because it looks to me like the **Republicans** are blocking **Democratic** attempts to repeal the law.

> **[Arizona Republicans Thwart Attempts to Repeal 1864 Abortion Ban](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/10/us/abortion-ban-arizona-democrats-repeal.html)**
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> Democrats in both houses of the Legislature were blocked from advancing bills to roll back the reinstated ban on nearly all abortions in the state.

[https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4586955-arizona-democrats-tried-to-repeal-abortion-ban-but-republicans-blocked-them/](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4586955-arizona-democrats-tried-to-repeal-abortion-ban-but-republicans-blocked-them/)

In fact I’m struggling to find stories showing the Democrats “gleefully blocking any attempts to repeal the law”. Some Republicans are in favor of repealing it, but they are getting blocked by other Republicans.

[https://www.axios.com/2024/04/10/abortion-ban-arizona-political-implications-kari-lake](https://www.axios.com/2024/04/10/abortion-ban-arizona-political-implications-kari-lake)

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Yeah, I can’t decide if I agree with this strategy or not.

I’m in the same boat. It’s the flipside of Trump’s torpedoing of the bipartisan border/immigration policy deal.  
ETA: Looks like Chefguy misspoke, or was simply mistaken, or there’s some subtlety here I don’t get.

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Looks like Chefguy misspoke, or was simply mistaken, or there’s some subtlety here I don’t get.

Well, I did read [the article](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/09/opinion/thepoint#arizona-republicans-abortion) before having coffee, so there’s that, but it sure seems to point to my take on it.

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Does it? The closest I can see is this:

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> There were [chaotic scenes](https://twitter.com/cameron_arcand/status/1778130964797071571) on the floor of the Arizona House as Republican legislators argued with one another over whether to repeal the 1864 abortion ban that was upheld by the state Supreme Court the day before. At one point, [according to The Arizona Republic](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/legislature/2024/04/10/arizona-abortion-ban-az-gop-stifles-attempt-to-repeal-1864-law/73268876007/), Representative Matt Gress, a Phoenix Republican, brought up a bill to repeal the law, but Democratic lawmakers ran over and reminded him that he had sponsored [fetal personhood bills](https://azmirror.com/briefs/house-republicans-pass-bill-that-could-codify-fetal-personhood/). “Do not fall for it,” yelled one Democrat, [in a video](https://twitter.com/cameron_arcand/status/1778130964797071571) taken on the House floor. Without a plan, Republicans, who control the chamber, were so shaken that they quickly recessed the House for a week, preventing a repeal vote.

It looks to me like the Democrats weren’t blocking the repeal; they were flagging Gress’s hypocrisy. And then the Republicans recessed the House.

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My reading of that particular piece is that Democrats in the Arizona legislature want to make sure voters are aware that any _Republican_ efforts to repeal the law are hypocritical and untrustworthy – that is, many of these same Republicans are trying to have it both ways (in favor of an abortion ban, yet not in favor of it).

I still don’t see evidence of Democrats trying to keep the ban in place (but I could be wrong).

(ETA: Ninja’d by Gyrate).

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
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Yeah, I’ll concede the point. I’m just chortling over the chaos in the R party.

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That’s always kind of fun to watch, true.

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Absolutely.  
So far, the Pubs (nationwide) haven’t needed any help in shooting themselves in the foot over abortion.

If at some point they DO need “help,” I wouldn’t put it past certain Democrats to help them (by cynically delaying a pro-choice legal resolution), and I would be torn by that. But at least until now, we can just sit back and enjoy the popcorn.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> So far, the Pubs (nationwide) haven’t needed any help in shooting themselves in the foot over abortion.

Way back when SCROTUS shot down Roe, I turned to my wife and said “They’ve just fucked themselves. Their own base is going to scream bloody murder over this.” Turns out that for once I was prescient. State governors and legislatures are passing abortion laws because they’ve badly misread their constituencies, and I believe they’re going to pay for that in upcoming elections.

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> SCROTUS

SCOTUS + scrotum?

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Seeing that Truth Social logo in your post reminds me, didn’t they get sued for trademark infringement early on because they stole (and barely modified) someone else’s logo? How did that ever turn out?

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > SCROTUS
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> SCOTUS + scrotum?

I sometimes wish I could call Trump a scrotal zit.

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People are saying it’s more like a mushroom than a zit.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@Chefguy](#):
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> > SCROTUS
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> SCOTUS + scrotum?

You tell 'em, Scrotus!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Gp0O6Y5xcZY/maxresdefault.jpg "Korgoth of Barbaria|Korgoth vs Scrotus.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp0O6Y5xcZY)

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> SCOTUS + scrotum?

Yes, it was intentional.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It looks to me like the Democrats weren’t blocking the repeal; they were flagging Gress’s hypocrisy. And then the Republicans recessed the House.

I think we can compromise on a statement that the Democrats aren’t going to make it easy for the Republicans to quietly repeal the law.

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