# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5382 "2024-04-14T08:49:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Ah, but that was before he and his crime family invited the scrutiny they are now subject to, thanks to mister ego’s arrogance.

I don’t accept this for a moment. They are a jetsetting family, and one of them could pop over to a clinic in Europe with not a peep of publicity.

Ages ago I read a piece with interviews with abortion clinic staff, several of whom said what made them white hot angry was being obliged by professional ethics to give abortions to well known anti-abortion campaigners (or their daughters) and not being able to say a word to anyone about it. And that’s in the USA.

When one of the Trump Stepford wives goes skiing in Switzerland, is anyone really going to know she nipped into a clinic for a day or two? And frankly even if you are right that there is a risk of a Trump being found out doing this - the Orange One has far too much chutzpah to worry about that risk, or for it to cause him to start softpedalling on abortion.

The Orange One’s aides told him that his unfortunate success in getting Roe v Wade overturned was costing him votes, so he said what he needed to say. End of story.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5383 "2024-04-14T09:41:13Z")

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> **[Most Innocent People Try to Delay Trials, Experts Say](https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/most-innocent-people-try-to-delay)**
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> “Generally speaking, people who have done nothing wrong want to push the day when their name is cleared as far into the future as they can,” one legal expert said.

😄

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5384 "2024-04-14T12:08:51Z")

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That falls a bit flat with me - IME actually people who believe they are innocent show the usual human inclination to put off confronting, difficult and uncertain things.

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5385 "2024-04-14T13:21:19Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Of course the only reason he would care about how is offspring is affected by it is how that would affect him. It has nothing to do with consistency, legality, or even morality. It’s all about him.

Very consistent for him.

Dan

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5386 "2024-04-14T15:10:26Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> That falls a bit flat with me - IME actually people who believe they are innocent show the usual human inclination to put off confronting, difficult and uncertain things.

He’s running scared. Innocent people don’t generally do that.

Trump’s ‘witch hunt’ bullshit is that he thinks that

- Everyone commits tax fraud.
- Everyone commits extortion.
- Everyone steals sensitive documents.
- Everyone tries to overturn elections (in three different ways in Trumps case)
- Anyone would commit insurection to get the ‘job’.

That’s just the tip of the iceburgh. That’s his mindset “Everyone is a cheet, a liar and a crook” Why are they going after me?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5387 "2024-04-14T19:27:39Z")

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I think it’s a humor/parody website.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5388 "2024-04-14T20:06:36Z")

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The donor of the largest donation to Rudy’s defense fund may have committed fraud. They are seeking “to unwind” the donation to Giuliani.

[https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/11/lawsuit-targets-donation-to-rudy-giuliani-defense-fund-.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/11/lawsuit-targets-donation-to-rudy-giuliani-defense-fund-.html)

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5389 "2024-04-15T00:11:56Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> He’s running scared. Innocent people don’t generally do that.

This isn’t my experience, as I said. Trials are nerve racking even for the innocent.

I expect Trump has a very guilty mind, but nonetheless…

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I think it’s a humor/parody website.

I know that, but the sarcasm falls a bit flat when it doesn’t mesh with my experience of even innocent people wanting to put things off.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5390 "2024-04-15T08:22:00Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Abortion is murder in some states, perfectly fine in others – it’s all A-OK with him, because he has such high principles and convictions.

Once again, the Simpsons prove prescient:

[![](https://external-preview.redd.it/48_Z4hTH6vTgE8K7NqWIEtMLJLGMA5_h29wxRzthQLE.png?auto=webp&s=923eba27dd7fb81295422a7420329994c4657917) ](https://external-preview.redd.it/48_Z4hTH6vTgE8K7NqWIEtMLJLGMA5_h29wxRzthQLE.png?auto=webp&s=923eba27dd7fb81295422a7420329994c4657917)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5391 "2024-04-16T03:00:39Z")

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_(Links in this post are to Yahoo.)_

Awww, poor baby had a rough Monday. It was so rough, he [had to take a nap in court](https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-campaign-cashes-trump-historic-211615737.html). Also, the [prosecution requested sanctions against him for violating the gag order _while in court_](https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-da-asks-judge-punish-163220602.html).

So, basically, the Mango Menace is on time out, told he cannot skip any court sessions and will be punished immediately if he disrupts them. No word yet if he’ll be allowed breaks to have his nappy changed.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5392 "2024-04-16T03:43:25Z")

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Og! Every accusation really is a confession!

Sleepy Joe indeed!

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5393 "2024-04-16T06:39:40Z")

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A judge not only rejected Rudy’s recent arguments to reverse the huge defamation judgment against him, but ridiculed some of his specious arguments. Rudy’s current legal and bankruptcy situation can be described as what lawyers and legal analysts, using technical legal terminology, refer to as “well and truly fucked”. 😉

> **[Judge upholds colossal defamation verdict against Rudy Giuliani](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rudy-giuliani-defamation-verdict-bankruptcy-b2529167.html)**
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> The judge dismissed one of Mr Giuliani’s five arguments as ‘delivered with obvious crocodile tears’

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5394 "2024-04-16T07:21:39Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Rudy’s current legal and bankruptcy situation can be described as what lawyers and legal analysts, using technical legal terminology, refer to as “well and truly fucked”. 😉

Actually, as a member of the legal profession, I’d fall back on our local bar’s legal terminology of Rudy being “screwed, blued, and tattooed.” But “well and truly fucked” works too. Suggestion: If you’re in church, or in your grandmother’s presence, you might like to use “screwed, blued, and tattoed,” as it doesn’t use the F-word, and you can divert the discussion by trying to define exactly what “blued” means.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5395 "2024-04-16T08:13:47Z")

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Tan the Conman’s [twitter rip-off is losing value at war speed](https://www.aol.com/finance/trump-stock-tanks-announcing-tens-141948161.html) (link to AOL article):

> Trump Media & Technology Group’s stock is tumbling again after the company announced a potentially massive new influx of shares. The struggling company is rapidly losing money, and a new stock offering could help it stay afloat.
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> But there’s a downside to going back to the market with more shares: The addition of 21.5 million shares for sale announced Monday would add more than 15% more stock to the publicly available shares of the [Truth Social owner](https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/investing/trump-stock-net-worth-truth-social/index.html?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo). That would substantially devalue existing shareholders’ stakes — including that of former President Donald Trump. And it means that millions of shares could be sold off.

_More to gloat over at the link._

But, hey, this truly cracked me up:

> “President Donald J. Trump is the subject of numerous legal proceedings. An adverse outcome in one or more of the ongoing legal proceedings could negatively impact TMTG,” the company noted. “If President Donald J. Trump were to cease to be able to devote substantial time to Truth Social, TMTG’s business would be adversely affected.”

How the holy fuck did y’all _not_ know that going in?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5396 "2024-04-16T09:52:09Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> you can divert the discussion by trying to define exactly what “blued” means

You may find **[this investigation](https://www.metabunk.org/threads/screwed-blewed-and-tattooed-false-etymologies.8285/)** of interest. (Not definitive, but pretty thorough for a casual write-up on the origin and meaning of the phrase.)

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5397 "2024-04-16T10:02:28Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> It was so rough, he [had to take a nap in court](https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-campaign-cashes-trump-historic-211615737.html).

> <https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1779971721975537666>
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> Biden-Harris HQ @BidenHQ

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5398 "2024-04-16T11:11:56Z")

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As if the poor man isn’t suffering enough, the avatar of incompetent leadership has come out on his side.

> **[Liz Truss backs Donald Trump to win US presidential election](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68821646)**
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> The ex-PM warns the "world was safer" under Donald Trump's presidency, and the West is "on the cusp" of conflict.

Pretty much every statement she makes in that article is wrong on a fundamental level. But I’m sure he appreciates her support.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5399 "2024-04-16T11:47:06Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> But, hey, this truly cracked me up:
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> > “President Donald J. Trump is the subject of numerous legal proceedings. An adverse outcome in one or more of the ongoing legal proceedings could negatively impact TMTG,” the company noted. “If President Donald J. Trump were to cease to be able to devote substantial time to Truth Social, TMTG’s business would be adversely affected.”
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> How the holy fuck did y’all _not_ know that going in?

I would have thought the more pertinent question was: how the holy fuck did anyone think that Truth Social needs to have DJT devote substantial time to it? He’s usually the kiss of death.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5400 "2024-04-16T12:34:48Z")

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Lettuce hope her support sinks Trump.

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> I would have thought the more pertinent question was: how the holy fuck did anyone think that Truth Social needs to have DJT devote substantial time to it? He’s usually the kiss of death.

My thoughts exactly. Everything Trump touches, dies. If Truth Social has any chance at all, it’s with someone else running it.

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