# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 289
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5762 "2024-05-02T09:05:35Z")
No, I just remembered that that was his catchphrase. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5763 "2024-05-02T10:34:05Z")
I recall there were attempts to take the quote and apply the “doesn’t she look tired” meme to Hillary during the 2016 election. I don’t know how widespread they were or how much they contributed to her loss. I personally never saw it outside the context of someone knowingly quoting that Doctor Who episode. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5764 "2024-05-02T12:34:57Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I enjoy all those pictures of Trump in his Training Jail™. Fisher Price My First Pokey ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5765 "2024-05-02T12:37:24Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > My First Pokey My Little Pokey: Incarceration is Magic. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5766 "2024-05-02T13:00:10Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > My Little Pokey: Incarceration is Magic.  :snicker: ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5767 "2024-05-02T13:49:32Z")
What would his Little Pokey name be? Donny Sparklefart? Rumblesnore? Oran-gino? ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5768 "2024-05-02T15:34:24Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > The worst, most sexist tactic ever used by the Doctor. > > Sexist? If he said she was ugly or shrill I would agree, but tired? That seems pretty gender neutral, and I think he could have just as easily used that on a man to similar effect. See for example Trump in this thread. I don’t think this would be telling at all against a male prime minister. Women are typically held to a higher standard for things like appearance and external signs of health than are men, but if you are inclined not to believe that, I doubt I can convince you. ---
**Author:** ![Jumpbass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jumpbass/32/147_2.png) [@Jumpbass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jumpbass)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5769 "2024-05-02T15:42:01Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Isn’t that Firesign Theatre? Yes. I believe the other side (of the LP) is a Nick Danger adventure. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5770 "2024-05-02T15:54:02Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > > [@Folly](#): > > > > Don’t confuse it with his signature. > > Or his ECG > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3IW7tZW8AQvNl2.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3IW7tZW8AQvNl2.jpg) The second is not _nearly_ flat enough. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5771 "2024-05-02T16:08:41Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Or do you stay vague and trust that the judge will read between the lines? Yes, this. You can’t tell the judge the client wants to withhold evidence. In a civil case, you may not even need the permission of the court to withdraw, so you don’t have to say anything. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5772 "2024-05-02T16:30:02Z")
I seem to recall reading (I believe it was in one of Edwin Newman’s books on language) that at one time, if the BBC described an MP as “tired” it meant he\* had obviously been drinking. If the description was “very tired” the inference was that it was amazing he was still on his feet. \* At the time it could be assumed that all MPs were male. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5773 "2024-05-02T17:01:36Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Women are typically held to a higher standard for things like appearance and external signs of health than are men, but if you are inclined not to believe that, I doubt I can convince you. I already conceded that point in my previous post so I am not disinclined to believe it. The only question was whether tired fit into that category of insults that are targeted at women. Given the comments about sleepy Joe and Trump falling asleep in the court room, it seemed to me that lack of energy was an effective insult independent of gender. As for it being the worst and most sexist thing the Doctor has ever done, it doesn’t even crack the top one hundred. Thirty-nine seasons of running around with women whose primary purpose is sitting in awe of his superior intellect provides lots of ammunition. Out of curiosity, suppose you were one of the writers on Dr. Who, was there a subtle non-sexist “observation” that the Doctor could have made of the prime minister to similar effect that you would have preferred he made? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5774 "2024-05-02T17:23:08Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I seem to recall reading (I believe it was in one of Edwin Newman’s books on language) that at one time, if the BBC described an MP as “tired” it meant he\* had obviously been drinking. If the description was “very tired” the inference was that it was amazing he was still on his feet. I seem to remember an episode of _Yes, Minister_ in which the Minister is photographed being quite drunk. He’s relieved when the picture is published in a newspaper with the description that he is “overwrought”. His Private Secretary then points out that the full description was “overwrought as a newt”. I gather that “pissed as a newt” is rather the British equivalent of “drunk as a skunk”. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5775 "2024-05-02T17:35:19Z")
“Tired and emotional” is “drunk” i think ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5776 "2024-05-02T17:58:11Z")
More evidence that the English are only pretending to speak the same language as Americans. (Or maybe it’s the reverse.) ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5777 "2024-05-02T18:14:44Z")
Or maybe they are just more versed in understatement, which really isn’t an American trait. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5778 "2024-05-02T19:14:07Z")
We can be, but it doesn’t make headlines. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5779 "2024-05-02T19:29:05Z")
The MyPillow guy is now the MyPaulbearer guy. > **[Paul Bearer Is Trending Due To ‘My Pillow Guy’ Mike Lindell's Ghastly Appearance](https://www.wrestlezone.com/news/1469638-paul-bearer-is-trending-due-to-my-pillow-guy-mike-lindells-ghastly-appearance)** > > Paul Bearer (William Moody) passed away in 2013. Mike Lindell, the “MyPillow guy”, looks like he hasn't slept since then. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5780 "2024-05-02T19:36:09Z")
Crack cocaine’s a hell of a drug. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5781 "2024-05-02T19:53:56Z")
He looks like a negative image of his hero, tanTrump. He has put make up just where the other does not. They really complement each other, chromatically at least. On a side note, I know Gary Peterson/Wrestlezone’s account posts parody content, but stating that > Meeting Mike Lindell at the Waukesha Trump Rally must’ve been what it was like to shake hands with the Apostle Paul before Christ took the stage at the sermon on the mound. is funny considering St. Paul was born several years after JC, who only lived to be 33 according to tradition. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=288) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=290)