# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> You have problems reading for comprehension.
> 
> In that sentence I was attempting to remove any doubts I was simping for him. He is definitely UNELECTABLE in my eyes.

You and I are going to agree that we would NEVER vote for the man. Unfortunately, there are 74 million Americans who happily vote for him. Unless you’re holding your fingers in your ears shouting “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU! 2016-2021 NEVER HAPPENED!”, we have actual proof that he is electable because he was actually elected.

And I was making a joke; a joke, I tell ya!

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
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> [@Horatius](#):
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> > [@Sitnam](#):
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> > does it seem reasonable that a porn start would ever have problems discussing boundaries or ever saying no? She wasn’t a starry eyed staffer or low level campaign peon.
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> My feeling is, she was pressured into it, but made the decision to roll with it.

I agree with this. In giving her description, I think that Daniels was taking pains to emphasize that she didn’t _seduce_ donald, which might have been the presumption based on her profession.

Rather, he invited _her_ to dinner, and she arrived dressed to go out. _He_ was the one who arrived in his pajamas, and who had arranged a private dinner in the hotel suite. And _he_ was the one who undressed and beckoned her over.

Sure, it was transactional. But that wasn’t her intention when she arrived. She had no designs on having sex.

So although she did indeed “roll with it” (in part, I presume, because sex is more casual for her than others), she didn’t _ask_ for it, and wasn’t _looking_ for it.

I think that’s the message she was trying to impart.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
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> [@Moriarty](#):
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> (in part, I presume, because sex is more casual for her than others)

Or perhaps more transactional, which fits his interactions with pretty much everybody.

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daniels testified that she peeked in his dopp bag in the bathroom. old spice and pert plus. pert plus! no wonder his hair looks like that. pert plus!

from wash post: She testified that she found cheap “Old Spice and Pert Plus” in the billionaire’s leather toiletry bag, and “I thought that was both amusing and odd.”

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
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Today I learned that Woody Guthrie wrote a song about the Trump family. Thank you!  
(Woody’s machine kills facists.)

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
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Go Woody!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> <https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1788317227533410558>

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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I don’t think insulting the House of Representatives as a whole is a good move, Perjury Traitor Greene.

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Hehehe, the “uniparty”? They could only unite against your level of stupid, Nitwit Greene.

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
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> [@bobot](#):
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> Today I learned that Woody Guthrie wrote a song about the Trump family. Thank you!  
> (Woody’s machine kills facists.)

You are welcome. Yeah, isn’t it crazy that possibly the greatest American Folk singer / songwriter actually wrote a song about Fred trump? With lyrics that are still relevant to this day, including an eerily prescient reference to ‘trump’s tower’. It’s like the trump family has long been a cancer on America; in Guthrie’s day it was localized, but now has metastasized in an alarming way.

The cover of the song is pretty good-- it rivals the Mermaid Avenue recordings:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TmZnlGBhwKg/maxresdefault.jpg "Ryan Harvey - Old Man Trump (ft. Ani DiFranco & Tom Morello)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmZnlGBhwKg)

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/5932 "2024-05-09T02:17:24Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I don’t think insulting the House of Representatives as a whole is a good move, Perjury Traitor Greene.

I thought MTG had backed down from her threat to call to vacate and I wonder what her game is here. She’s not exactly making friends in the House and this isn’t something Trump wants so what does she get out of this? Attention, obviously, but are the good people of Georgia District 14 going to continue to support her when she can’t get anything done? What am I saying? She’s not really a legislator she’s a performance artist and they love her.

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Yep actual accomplishments are not nearly as important and purity and virtue signalling.

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I remember when conservatives would criticize liberals for “virtue signaling.” I’m sure it still happens but it seemed to be more common during the Bush and Obama years. The thinking basically always seem to come down to “I only care about my own race/religion/tribe so everyone else that’s advocating for equality and acceptance must have ulterior motives.”

Which is to say, knowing full well that this vote was going to fail spectacularly, and that she wouldn’t even have significant support from her own party, this is by far one of the most spectacular and completely pointless virtue signals I’ve seen in quite some time. I’m impressed, for certain definitions of the word “impressed.”

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> > [@Odesio](#):
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> > While there are lines I won’t cross (I won’t attack Barron for instance), […]
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> I too will not attack Barron _for now_. But I am also watching him. I might attack him later, if he gives me reasons to do so. He is a Trump after all.

Well, well, well…

> **[Barron Trump to step into the political arena as a Florida delegate at the...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/barron-trump-florida-delegate-republican-national-convention-rcna151388)**
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> The position as an at-large delegate for the Florida Republican Party will be the highest-profile political role thus far for Barron, former President Donald Trump's youngest son.

> **[Barron Trump chosen as Florida delegate to Republican National Convention](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/09/barron-trump-florida-delegate-republican-national-convention)**
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> Eighteen-year-old will be among delegates to officially nominate his father, Donald Trump, as candidate for upcoming presidential election

The little one is starting to act as a Trump, so soon after turning 18! But that is not all the article writes:

> Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and Trump’s youngest daughter, Tiffany, are also part of the Florida delegation to the convention taking place in Milwaukee from 15 July to 18 July.
> 
> “We are fortunate to have a great group of grassroots leaders, elected officials, and members of the Trump family working together as part of the Florida delegation to the 2024 Republican National Convention,” Power said in an emailed statement.

Only Ivanka is missing! We are so fortunate to have such a close knit expresi ~~diari~~ …dential family!  
Fun peripheral fact: The English noun “convict” can be translated into Spanish as “[presidiario](https://dle.rae.es/presidiario?m=form)”.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Only Ivanka is missing!

Well, Melania, too.

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> The little one is starting to act as a Trump, so soon after turning 18!

Now that Barron is fair game, allow me to say that he looks just as ineffably stupid as his brothers – or half-brothers, or whatever the fuck they are. He has that same distinctive vacant expression that suggests a vague confusion about the world around him, a confusion that will never be resolved due to a deficiency of brain cells. It’s interesting because in the Great Orange Progenitor himself, the constant expression is more like hateful aggression. I guess the young’uns will grow into it eventually.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Now that Barron is fair game, allow me to say that he looks just as ineffably stupid as his brothers – or half-brothers, or whatever the fuck they are.

I won’t comment on his looks, but I think it will be interesting to discover where he goes for a post-secondary education. After all, Donald Trump attended Wharton, Eric attended Georgetown, and Don Jr. also attended Wharton. Ivanka attended Georgetown and U of Pennsylvania. Seems to me that a post-secondary education at a university is expected of members of the Trump family.

So where Barron goes will be interesting. I hope he has enough guts to make his own choice in schools, and is not influenced by his family.

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I won’t comment on his looks …

I want to be clear on what I meant by this. If someone has an unusually shaped facial feature like nose or chin, that’s never fair game for ridicule. To justify ridicule, two conditions have to be met, IMHO. First, it has to be that typical Trump-family vacant glassy-eyed expression of total cluelessness that so well reveals the void within. Second, the vapid dumbasses have to be installed in a position of power. Those two conditions being met, IMHO all bets are off about criticizing their dumbass vapid appearance.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
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If everything else fails Sr. can always re-open his magnificent university, can he not?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> I hope he has enough guts to make his own choice in schools, and is not influenced by his family.

I believe someone will be whispering in his ear in Slovak. A very practical language, this language — [it’s the craziest thing](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-warns-languages-immigration-migrants-rcna141535) — that is a language that nobody in this country has ever heard of. It’s a very horrible thing.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> To justify ridicule, two conditions have to be met, IMHO. First, it has to be that typical Trump-family vacant glassy-eyed expression of total cluelessness that so well reveals the void within. Second, the vapid dumbasses have to be installed in a position of power.

Again, I cannot comment, as I have not seen enough photos of Barron to form an opinion on his looks. But I have no doubt that Donald fully expects Barron the join the family circus, er, I mean business, and goes to their selected schools. I hope that Barron charts his own path, despite what Daddy Donnie says, and shakes the Trump “we expect this of you” stuff.

I’d like to see how the Trump family reacts should Barron choose to go to UC Berkeley.

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