# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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Also I am pretty sure that there are an awful lot of career Republicans, who can see clearly that Trump is going to take everything for himself and leave then with nothing. Publiclly of course they will loudly support him, but behind the scenes I bet that there is a lot of murmuring about how to take him down in a way that can’t be pinned on them.

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I’d like to think that you are right, but just like it goes with Trump and accountability, I’ll believe it when I see it.  
As I await the coming of your prophecy, Republicans are telling their voters to do like Haley did, and not like Cheney and Kinzinger did.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Trump: My rally had 30,000 people and a line a mile long to get in  
His rally:

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOVf5mWbYAALXKg?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOVf5mWbYAALXKg?format=jpg&name=medium)

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> His rally:

what do you think, 250-300 people?

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
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Hell, that place filled to capacity would be maybe 5,000.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> what do you think, 250-300 people?

> [@Akaj](#):
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> Hell, that place filled to capacity would be maybe 5,000.

I think that crowd is at least 2,000-2,500.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6148 "2024-05-24T21:23:05Z")

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The best part about that is over on Twitter where all the cult members are bleating, “look at the time stamp - that was 7 hours before it began” and then everyone else pointing out that’s the time stamp for the 11 o’clock nightly news.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6149 "2024-05-24T21:31:33Z")

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Some of those charged in the Arizona fake electors plot have been unable to afford lawyers and are getting public defenders. Sounds like a good time to start flipping.

> **[Republicans charged in fake electors plot can't afford lawyers](https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-fake-electors-republicans-lawyer-2020-election-1903239)**
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> Last month, 19 individuals were indicted by Democratic Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes in a 2020 fake electors scheme.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> I think that crowd is at least 2,000-2,500.

> **[MAGA Idiots Fail to Spin Away Embarrassing Fact on Trump Bronx Rally](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maga-idiots-fail-spin-away-155610757.html)**
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> This pathetic lie will brighten your day.

> Conservatives’ claims of 25,000 showing out in the Bronx is roughly 30 times what reality depicts of around 800 people in Crotona Park’s amphitheater, with a few hundred hanging around past the gates. …
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> But aerial visuals indicate Trump supporters on Thursday left the baseball field–size amphitheater less than a quarter full, roughly the size of one baseball diamond—or around 800 people.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Musk wanted to build Teslas with full roboticization.

So… CyberTrucks were designed by robots? That makes sense, actually.

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Robots with grey crayons.

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And an Apple ][.

> **[Car Builder (1982) - MobyGames](https://www.mobygames.com/game/7968/car-builder/)**
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> This is an educational game for children who want to learn about cars. Car Builder is just what the title says, a car design game. You can modify anything from tires and suspension to engine type and body design of the car. When the car is...

[![](https://habrastorage.org/webt/8a/bm/xn/8abmxn6vpnvl2ijokftf1yczhbw.png) ](https://habrastorage.org/webt/8a/bm/xn/8abmxn6vpnvl2ijokftf1yczhbw.png)

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6154 "2024-05-25T00:36:01Z")

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Meanwhile at the Libertarian convention, a motion has been proposed calling for Donald Trump to go fuck himself.

[https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1794164051557454041](https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1794164051557454041)

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6155 "2024-05-25T00:37:24Z")

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Finally, a libertarian stance I can get behind.

My first exposure to libertarian politics was in a freshman college class. I actually raised my hand and asked, “people really believe this stuff?!”

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6156 "2024-05-25T00:48:48Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> So… CyberTrucks were designed by robots? That makes sense, actually.

About Musk’s automation blunder:

[Tesla’s problem: overestimating automation, underestimating humans - IMD business school for management and leadership courses](https://www.imd.org/research-knowledge/strategy/articles/teslas-problem-overestimating-automation-underestimating-humans/#:~:text=Tesla%20was%20hoping%20to%20produce,that%20%E2%80%9Chumans%20are%20underrated%E2%80%9D).

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6157 "2024-05-25T00:54:37Z")

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Additionally, the guy who ran for president on a “Donald Trump should be president instead of me” platform isn’t exactly getting a warm reception either.

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794163929104740412](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794163929104740412)

[https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794168090592493736](https://x.com/Acyn/status/1794168090592493736)

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[Awww. A peaceful tourist just hanging out in Washington is unhappy he’ll be visiting another federally-funded hotspot for twelve years, courtesy of a judge _appointed by Trump_.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-insults-judge-sentenced-him-224151216.html)

> A New Jersey electrician who repeatedly attacked police officers during the Jan. 6, 2021, siege at the U.S. Capitol was sentenced on Friday to 12 years in prison by a judge who called him “a menace to our society.”
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> Christopher Joseph Quaglin argued with and insulted U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden before and after the judge handed him one of the longest prison sentences among hundreds of Capitol riot cases.
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> “You’re Trump’s worst mistake of 2016,” Quaglin told McFadden, who was nominated to the court by then-President Donald Trump in 2017.

How’s _that_ for schadenfreude?

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Jack Smith is asking for a gag order after Loser Donald’s lie that the FBI tried to kill him.

[https://meidasnews.com/news/jack-smith-asks-for-gag-order-on-trump-after-assassination-conspiracy](https://meidasnews.com/news/jack-smith-asks-for-gag-order-on-trump-after-assassination-conspiracy)

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Competing cite from law enforcement sources (via the NY Post), who I think have more experience at this, and probably better information, than that reporter.

> **[Trump’s rally in deep blue South Bronx drew crowd of 8,000 to 10,000: law...](https://nypost.com/2024/05/24/us-news/trump-bronx-rally-draws-8000-to-10000-attendees-law-enforcement-sources/)**
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> Thousands of Trump supporters were lined up by the security gates for hours hoping to catch a glimpse of the 45th president making his first New York City rally comeback since 2016.

The 8,000-10,000 estimate is much farther off my guess than the _New Republic_ reporter’s, but it seems far more likely than 800. Unless she meant to say 8,000.

The only oddity is that the campaign reportedly gave out 3,500 tickets. Which is in the ball park of my estimate. ISTM that it would be odd if two to three times more people showed up than ordered tickets.

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> [@commasense](#):
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> The 8,000-10,000 estimate is much farther off my guess than the _New Republic_ reporter’s, but it seems far more likely than 800. Unless she meant to say 8,000.

No way the crowd in that pic are 8,000 people, your estimate is much more plausible, I even would guess (my experience stemming from attending hundreds of concerts) that the crowd is smaller than 1,500.

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