# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 312
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6222 "2024-05-28T00:00:19Z")
Looks like someone just found out for the first time in his life that the defense goes first in closing. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOnudobWMAAu3QI?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOnudobWMAAu3QI?format=jpg&name=medium) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6223 "2024-05-28T00:07:14Z")
Usually when the Orange Turd is told some basic fact that had never previously penetrated his unfathomable ignorance, his bloviations are phrased like this: “many people don’t know that …”. Which is code for “someone just told me this thing I never knew before”. His obliviousness to the fact that normal people have known about this thing, whatever it was, since they were around six years old would be rather charming if he wasn’t such a totally malignant asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6224 "2024-05-28T00:12:07Z")
Well, in fairness, not everyone knows that in New York State, the defense always goes first. I didn’t know that until recently. However, I would think that Trump’s lawyers would have outlined how a criminal trial works from start to finish before things got going, and then reminded him as each stage progressed. Naturally, who goes first with summations would be part of all that. I suspect that Trump’s lawyers did just as I described above, but Trump being Trump, either forgot it all, or refused to believe it until he had no other choice but to believe it. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6225 "2024-05-28T00:13:26Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Looks like someone just found out for the first time in his life that the defense goes first in closing. It may not be allowable under NY law but I say let them pick whatever order they want. I don’t think it’s going to help. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6226 "2024-05-28T00:14:10Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, in fairness, not everyone knows that in New York State, the defense always goes first. I didn’t know that until recently. I didn’t, either, but the fact that the party that has the burden of proof goes last is still the tradition in my experience. What’s different is that the prosecution doesn’t begin. But they respond after the defense gives their closing. The prosecution going last is the same. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6227 "2024-05-28T00:25:42Z")
I wonder if Trump could survive without the ability to use upper case letters or exclamation points. I feel like he might just shrivel up and die. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6228 "2024-05-28T01:33:04Z")
Amen, Doper. Amen. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6229 "2024-05-28T02:58:51Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > He did beat Stormy Daniels (1) and Christian Weston(2) by what some have said is a landslide. His idiot supporters say his actual defeat in the 2020 election was a landslide win for him, so there’s that point of view I guess. > [@Spoons](#): > > I suspect that Trump’s lawyers did just as I described above, but Trump being Trump, either forgot it all, or refused to believe it until he had no other choice but to believe it. I suspect the lawyers did that but, of course, he couldn’t be bothered to actually listen to them. > [@needscoffee](#): > > I wonder if Trump could survive without the ability to use upper case letters or exclamation points. I feel like he might just shrivel up and die. Do you remember _Saturday Night Live_’s character, Mister Subliminal? For a visual version, Tan the Conman could have his flacks in the gallery raising large placards with punctuation marks on them. Of course, they would do that at random times during is, let’s call it, discourse. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6230 "2024-05-28T03:43:59Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > He did beat Stormy Daniels (1) and Christian Weston(2) by what some have said is a landslide. ♫ “He took my love, with a tiny hand ♫ ♫ Tried bribe me with $130 grand ♫ ♫ And I saw my reflection in a shark week show ♫ ♫ Decided to sue him when he asked for another blow… oh… oh… ♫ ♫ ( Oh Hells No…)” ♫ ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6231 "2024-05-28T13:10:46Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > However, I would think that Trump’s lawyers would have outlined how a criminal trial works from start to finish before things got going, and then reminded him as each stage progressed. Maybe they did and he simply wasn’t paying attention. As usual. ETA: like what @Monty said. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6232 "2024-05-28T13:22:48Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > How many votes on the “Go Fuck Himself” motion, I wonder? I bet it a yuger number. MAGA: “Well, _acshually_, the motion was to “Fuck Trump”, so of course it was unanimous, because everyone wants a piece of that sweet ass!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6233 "2024-05-28T17:32:40Z")
Good thing it’s big enough for everyone to get a piece, then. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6234 "2024-05-28T17:41:13Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I suspect that Trump’s lawyers did just as I described above, but Trump being Trump, either forgot it all, or refused to believe it until he had no other choice but to believe it. Or, he knew damned well that prosecution closes second, and that John Q. Magat wouldn’t know that, and it gave him a REASON TO RANT IN ALL CAPS!, further enflaming his adoring crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6235 "2024-05-28T17:52:25Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > and it gave him a REASON TO RANT IN ALL CAPS!, further enflaming his adoring crowd. He doesn’t need a reason to rant. He’ll rant no matter what happens. “They made me go last! They wouldn’t let us warn the jury not to believe the lies before they were told the lies! ILLEGAL JURY TEMPERING!” ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6236 "2024-05-28T18:22:26Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Usually when the Orange Turd is told some basic fact that had never previously penetrated his unfathomable ignorance, his bloviations are phrased like this: “many people don’t know that …”. Which is code for “someone just told me this thing I never knew before” Exactly. His ignorance and narcissism knows no bounds, so if he’s learning something for the first time it must be because literally no one ever knew it before. It’s weaponized entitlement at its finest and demonstrates an insane lack of self-awareness or perspective. “Why am I being treated like everyone else? It’s **UNFAIR**!” > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Magat wouldn’t know that, and it gave him a REASON TO RANT IN ALL CAPS!, further enflaming his adoring crowd. Okay so everyone knows when you go to certain websites and you go to type in your password, if it’s masked there might be a little warning that pops up telling you your caps lock key is on? Someone needs to stand up behind him, and I mean anywhere, with a sign that says “ **Warning caps lock key is on**!” ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6237 "2024-05-28T19:41:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I’d like to think that you are right, but just like it goes with Trump and accountability, Don’t it always seem to go, you don’t know what you got - Y’ nominate trump and your party’s in the pot! Dan ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6238 "2024-05-28T20:12:25Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > I cannot begin to fathom what idiot decided it would be a good idea to invite Trump to the Libertarian convention. Idiot??? Genius, I say, and I would like to buy him or her a cigar. Surely the booing was worth a cigar? Dan ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6239 "2024-05-28T21:18:09Z")
Yeah, the idiot was the guy who agreed to speak before a crowd of people who passed, the previous day, a resolution directing the proposed speaker to go fuck himself. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6240 "2024-05-28T21:55:48Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Okay so everyone knows when you go to certain websites and you go to type in your password, if it’s masked there might be a little warning that pops up telling you your caps lock key is on? Someone needs to stand up behind him, and I mean anywhere, with a sign that says “ **Warning caps lock key is on**!” Maybe he’s posting from a TELEX terminal, like **FORMERAGENT** used to do, back in 2000. Hey, maybe he _IS_ **FORMERAGENT**! &o\_o &\>\_\< &o\_0 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6241 "2024-05-29T08:21:50Z")
[Jenna Ellis has her license to practice law in Colorado suspended for three years.](https://www.aol.com/news/former-trump-attorney-colorado-law-000146748.html) > Jenna Ellis, an ex-attorney for former President Trump, has agreed to have her law license suspended for three years in Colorado for her role in attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. > > A presiding disciplinary judge approved the [settlement](https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/257e00e9-554f-4624-9859-74b07687b8ed/downloads/24PDJ002%20People%20v%20Ellis%20Order.pdf?ver=1716932924218) between Ellis and Colorado’s Attorney Counsel on Tuesday. > > Ellis [pleaded guilty](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4272209-jenna-ellis-pleads-guilty-georgia-election-interference-case/) in October to one count of aiding and abetting false statements and writings. She reached a plea agreement with prosecutors in the Georgia 2020 election interference case, in which Trump and 17 others were indicted for engaging in an unlawful conspiracy to keep the former president in power. > > [She was first censured](https://www.coloradosupremecourt.com/pdj/Decisions/Ellis,%20Opinion%20Approving%20Stipulation%20to%20Discipline,%2023PDJ004,%2003-08-23.pdf) by Colorado’s Office of Attorney Regulation Counsel in March 2023 after she made “misrepresentations on national television and on Twitter regarding the 2020 presidential election.” > > Ellis’s suspension will take effect on July 2 and last three years. She got off light. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=311) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=313)