# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
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The “Clinton Socks Case?” Even their CAT was involved - in what? I’m confused, but let me just say that by going after the family feline he’s reached a new low. 🙀 😾

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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New? He’s been saying for years he grabs 'em by the pussy.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/643 "2023-06-29T02:44:48Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> “This court is not legitimate because there is gold fringe on the flag and therefore this as an admiralty court.” seems just as legally valid as the other defenses he’s floated, such as “I declassified the documents with the power of my mind”.

That’s a slur against Sovcits - the fringe argument is so much more logically and legally consistent. I’m not even kidding about that. It’s batshit insane but at least it’s consistent and makes a sort of sense if you accept their premises.

Trump doesn’t even have any premises beyond “You can’t do that to ME!”

Sure, neither are legally valid but of totally different orders of batshittery.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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1% law, 99% jive.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/645 "2023-06-29T03:33:02Z")

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> **[PolitiFact - Yes, Bill Clinton kept tapes in his sock drawer. Here's why...](https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/jun/12/why-the-bill-clinton-sock-drawer-case-is-not-compa/)**
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> As former President Donald Trump defended himself against federal charges involving classified documents, he described w

It had to do with Clinton’s sock drawer and I think, I didn’t reread this, a diary and maybe a book? I did think the same thing when I first heard it.

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> [GOP candidate Suarez asks interviewer 'what's a Uyghur?'](https://news.yahoo.com/gop-candidate-suarez-asks-interviewer-142606283.html)

I think it’s a place in U-Beki-Beki-Beki-Beki-Stan-Stan.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/647 "2023-06-29T10:45:23Z")

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He should have known, because it is a right-wing hobby horse (I think they are nominally or maybe even actually Christian?), but I’m certain that there are lots of other groups being similarly oppressed that just haven’t gotten the press.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/648 "2023-06-29T11:23:27Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> He should have known, because it is a right-wing hobby horse (I think they are nominally or maybe even actually Christian?)

Muslim, actually. Which explains why some right-wingers don’t know or care about them. They’re a bit conflicted. On the one hand, they don’t want to help any Muslims, but on the other hand, they can use this as an easy reason to bash the Chinese. It’s so annoying when you can’t just be racist to _everyone!_

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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> [@smithsb](#):
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> DJT lawyers claim payment in Carroll case $5,000,000.
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> "We write to respectfully request that the Court so order the enclosed Stipulation and  
> Proposed Order Regarding the Use of a Cash Deposit in Court as Security in Lieu of a Supersedeas Bond. The cash deposit will be in the amount of$5,550,000, which is 111% of the judgment amount and is consistent with the traditional security percentage of supersedeas bonds. Additionally, my office is currently holding $5,550,000 in trust and will promptly make such deposit upon the entering of this Stipulation and Order.  
> We thank the Court for its consideration. "
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> [https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.209.0.pdf](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045/gov.uscourts.nysd.590045.209.0.pdf)

This little technical development is definitely worth some Schadenfreude-ial enjoyment. Anyone should be able to get a supersedeas bond as long as they are perceived as a trustworthy individual who is accountable for their debts. (It also helps if said individual’s personal and business activities are not BOTH under criminal investigation.)

As George Conway so eloquently put it in a Twitter post, “He. Couldn’t. Get. A. Bond.”

Hence the plea for the court to accept a cash deposit. It’s sort of like being denied a credit card because your credit history shows you’re a deadbeat, and begging the card issuer to give you one if you post a cash deposit with them.

And of course the orange shit-stain is also having difficulty recruiting good lawyers. Joe Tacopina looks and sounds just like a mob lawyer, the sort who would have represented Al Capone – though Al probably had way better lawyers because he actually paid them.

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> On the one hand, they don’t want to help any Muslims, but on the other hand, they can use this as an easy reason to bash the Chinese.

I imagine them repeating both talking points over and over while smoke pours out their ears like Norman the android in the classic Trek episode “I, Mudd”.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/651 "2023-06-29T13:38:37Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> 1% law, 99% jive.

He ain’t got no sense, no how.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/652 "2023-06-29T16:52:06Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I imagine them repeating both talking points over and over while smoke pours out their ears like Norman the android in the classic Trek episode “I, Mudd”.

Not even that. As I have said before, Republicans have developed talking out of both sides of their ass into a fine art. Sometimes they manage in the same _sentence_ e.g. Biden is a senile old fool who orchestrated the 2020 election theft by personally delivering hundreds of thousands of ballots printed in China. Of course, those very same ballots are perfectly valid as they helped elect the ‘Pub governor, senator, rep, or other state official who _did_ get elected – it was only Donnie Two-scoops’ election that was tampered with.

The secret is to not pay attention to the noises your pie hole is making.

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> New? He’s been saying for years he grabs 'em by the pussy.

Ka-ching! 👍

> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> It had to do with Clinton’s sock drawer and I think, I didn’t reread this, a diary and maybe a book? I did think the same thing when I first heard it.

Thanks for the cite – whataboutism is strong in this one.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/654 "2023-06-29T20:41:49Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The ‘He changed his name to hide that he’s a Jew’ trope is very old.

[Conservative think]  
But Smith was the one who changed his name. Why is he so ashamed to have a Jewish name. Whose the real anti-semite here!  
[\Conservative think]

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> personally delivering hundreds of thousands of ballots printed in China

I think you mean

personally delivering millions\* of mail in ballots that will filled out with fake names by dead illegals who were bused in from Mexico.

\*It had to be at least 7.1 million since Trump couldn’t have lost the popular vote.

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Please, Jebus. I’ve been a good boy.

> **[Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges,...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-giuliani-more-charges-b2366597.html)**
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> Prosecutors could bring between 30 to 45 additional criminal charges against the former president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/657 "2023-06-30T02:50:08Z")

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Dayyum!

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I see Rudy’s been talking, although if they manage to get anything coherent out of him it’ll be a first.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/659 "2023-06-30T08:22:00Z")

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Maybe they could just hold him over a bucket and wring him out.

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Reporting is he’s at the proffer stage, very likely a deal is at hand. Hmm, I wonder who’s higher up the food chain where it would make sense to offer a deal?

Also, this is one instance where the defendant’s legal background is a plus. Unlike Trump, I’m sure it was easily explained to Rudy that he is in a world of shit and there’s no escape.

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