# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 334
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6662 "2024-06-15T17:33:00Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > …came away with the impression that he’s a blithering imbecile who might be suffering from dementia You gotta be smart to be a CEO! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6663 "2024-06-16T00:09:02Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > My first thought reading this was the best way to cause the conservatives to lose their shit is to propose a negative tax rate for those earning below average income and a positive rate for those above. I think that that is basically the way the Earned Income Tax Credit works. It starts low, then increases with salary to a point after which it drops off. I couldn’t find exactly the way it was calculated, but I strongly suspect that it could be defined in terms of being a progressive tax structure with negative rates at low income. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6664 "2024-06-16T00:33:37Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Apparently this is what some of the families, as well as Jones, wanted, because they feel it would result in more money more quickly. I guess in either case, they will cease doing business, which is the main thing? (note: copied EddyTeddyFreddy’s post because it seemed to be the last relevant post in this thread on this topic). I saw the NYT article about this. Apparently the families are divided about the decision made by the judge. (gift link): > **[Judge Orders Sale of Alex Jones’s Personal Assets but Keeps Infowars in Business](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/14/us/politics/infowars-bankruptcy-alex-jones.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0E0.MVQV.mUpPrVhJFNXj&smid=url-share)** > > The ruling will allow the conspiracy theorist to continue broadcasting on Infowars, while the Sandy Hook families pursue payment of $1.4 billion in defamation damages. > The outcome sharply divided the Sandy Hook families. Families who sued Mr. Jones in Texas favored Friday’s decision, which will keep Mr. Jones on the air but allow them to potentially receive more in damages from the Infowars income. Families who sued Mr. Jones in Connecticut favored settling for less money and shutting Mr. Jones down, although they acknowledged he would not be silenced entirely. The article also says Jones is expected to appeal, of course, so this will continue to drag on. Justice is NOT being done for these families. In other, possibly more schadenfreude-y news, Mary Trump’s brother has apparently written a book about the fam, which is expected to appear July 30: > **[Memoir by Trump’s Nephew Will Shed Light Into ‘Darker Corner’ of Family](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/books/review/fred-trump-nephew-memoir.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0E0._mdw._R0YTE3Och9m&smid=url-share)** > > Fred C. Trump III’s “All in the Family: The Trumps and How We Got This Way” will hit shelves July 30. Bombshell or nothingberder? Hard to say. Doubt it moves the needle at all, but there might be some interesting tidbits in it. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6665 "2024-06-16T00:37:47Z")
It’s rather more complicated than that. For some range of income the more you earn, the more you get. Then it starts dropping. Oversimplified cases: Head of household, two children: 10,000 income, 3,000 credit 20,000 income, 6,000 credit 30,000 income, 5,000 credit There were changes made for 2024 that I’m not familiar with. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6666 "2024-06-16T00:57:26Z")
But that is what we would expect from a progressive negative tax rate In ypour simplified example 10k-20k you have a negative 33.3% tax rate for 30K it becomes a negative 16.7% tax rate. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6667 "2024-06-16T05:23:02Z")
Started/going [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQKSsWKXsAAeD45?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQKSsWKXsAAeD45?format=jpg&name=medium) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQKbapgXsAAI--V?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQKbapgXsAAI--V?format=jpg&name=small) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6668 "2024-06-16T05:51:29Z")
I’m going to choose to believe that they did it on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6669 "2024-06-16T07:10:43Z")
Edmonton is in Canada? Who knew! 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6670 "2024-06-16T08:00:24Z")
Nobody, until Donald Trump discovered it. Must have been quite a sight, all those penguins coming up to him with tears in their eyes, squawking “Thank you, President Trump, for finding us!” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6671 "2024-06-16T08:23:48Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Must have been quite a sight, all those penguins coming up to him with tears in their eyes, squawking “Thank you, President Trump, for finding us!” Pretty sure the Penguins are from Pittsburgh, which last I checked, was not in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6672 "2024-06-16T08:34:36Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Edmonton is in Canada? Who knew! 🤪 I was there last week. It was … well, Edmonton. I know it well, having lived there for a few years. Not the most exciting of places. At least, it might get a little more exposure this way, though maybe not in the way it wants. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6673 "2024-06-16T08:45:28Z")
I think I’ve only been in Edmonton once, on business. Oddly enough, I ended up with a suite at the Fantasyland hotel, with a great big Jacuzzi right in the middle of my room. “Room with Jacuzzi and at least three tarts of loose morals” will always be my lasting impression of Edmonton, although sadly, what I actually got was a nice room with a Jacuzzi but no tarts. [![](https://imgcy.trivago.com/c_lfill,f_auto,g_faces,q_auto:good,w_765/mag/2019/02/20124647/fantasyland-hotel-edmonton-hot-tub-room.jpg) ](https://imgcy.trivago.com/c_lfill,f_auto,g_faces,q_auto:good,w_765/mag/2019/02/20124647/fantasyland-hotel-edmonton-hot-tub-room.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6674 "2024-06-16T11:29:23Z")
Penguin! Penguin! Penguin! No tarts! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6675 "2024-06-16T14:11:02Z")
Mushroom! Mushroom! ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6676 "2024-06-16T19:07:24Z")
There’s a Hampton Inn in Columbia MO that has Jacuzzis in the rooms. It’s vintage 80s (clearly not updated) and the Jacuzzis are all that wonderful rose pink. I used to stay there regularly, and the Jacuzzis never looked that clean to me. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6677 "2024-06-16T19:58:31Z")
I lived in Edmonton when the Oilers walked the Earth as gods among men so Trump can just shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6678 "2024-06-16T20:07:37Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Penguin! Penguin! Penguin! No tarts! Lonely! ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6679 "2024-06-16T20:49:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Mushroom! Mushroom! Snake!!! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6680 "2024-06-16T23:58:48Z")
Splunge! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6681 "2024-06-17T05:16:44Z")
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