# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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2008: Obama/McCain  
2012: Obama/Romney  
2016: Clinton/Trump

Seems a lifetime ago, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6743 "2024-06-22T16:01:51Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Is that the election where some Fox host/anchor had a camera accompany them on a trek to the basement to ask the eggheads if they were serious?

That was the one (2012, that is). Ohio got called for Obama, Karl Rove lost it on-air, saying that some Ohio county still outstanding was going to bring it all home for Romney, and Fox took their cameras down to their projection operation.

Of course, no one talked about the _math_ of it all on the air, so it ended up as just a little pissing match. Still happy to see Turd Blossom get his comeuppance, though.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6744 "2024-06-22T16:03:45Z")

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> [@SunUp](#):
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> Ohio got called for Obama, Karl Rove lost it on-air

Memorably discussed on the Daily Show

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZB3LhRrzs6A/maxresdefault.jpg "John Stewart avalanche on bullshit mountain") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB3LhRrzs6A)

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6745 "2024-06-22T18:49:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> 2008: Obama/McCain  
> 2012: Obama/Romney  
> 2016: Clinton/Trump
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> Seems a lifetime ago, doesn’t it?

Yeah, one of those is not like the others.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6746 "2024-06-22T23:15:19Z")

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I still have that episode on my DVR. Jon was on fire that night. And “math you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better” is one of the all-time greatest quotes.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6747 "2024-06-22T23:17:40Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Seems a lifetime ago, doesn’t it?

Everything before 2020 seems like it happened on another **planet**.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6748 "2024-06-23T00:50:54Z")

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Trump does have an immigration policy in the works. UFC style fights!

[https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/22/trump-ufc-migrant-league-00164570](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/22/trump-ufc-migrant-league-00164570)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6749 "2024-06-23T01:19:30Z")

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15,000 go in, only one comes out — and is immediately deported.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6750 "2024-06-23T01:34:01Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> Trump does have an immigration policy in the works. UFC style fights!

I read the article but still… fucking what!!!

Edit: there are supposed to be question marks in with those exclamation points but the board auto-formats them out.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6751 "2024-06-23T02:04:58Z")

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Oops, yes, the Obama reelect in 2012.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6752 "2024-06-23T04:09:53Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> Edit: there are supposed to be question marks in with those exclamation points but the board auto-formats them out.

That’s because 6 punctuations went in and only 3 came out! (Seriously, 3 is Discourse’s limit?!?)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6753 "2024-06-23T07:01:55Z")

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Discourse is a punk about punctuation.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6754 "2024-06-23T08:39:27Z")

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I also found recently that it has a 10 character minimum length of subject lines.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6755 "2024-06-23T09:45:43Z")

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> “But actually, it’s not the worst idea I’ve ever had,” he continued.

I guess that is technically true.

> Speaking first to a crowd of conservative Christians at a Faith & Freedom Coalition gathering in Washington, D.C., Trump said he shared the idea with Dana White, president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship.  
> […]  
> The suggestion drew laughter and applause from the crowd, a response that continued as he spoke more about the concept.

I guess it is futile to ask for an explanation of what a “crowd of conservative Christians at a Faith & Freedom Coalition gathering” is, is it not? I probably don’t want to know.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6756 "2024-06-23T09:49:33Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I guess it is futile to ask for an explanation of what a “crowd of conservative Christians at a Faith & Freedom Coalition gathering” is, is it not? I probably don’t want to know.

It’s not a crowd. The proper collective noun, of course, is a _hypocrisy_.

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> Nobody can ever trust Fox News, and I am one of them

Among the many superpowers of the Orange Genius is his command of the English language. This sentence would normally be considered grammatical gibberish, but in the hands of a master, it readily communicates the fact that the Orange Genius is saying that he’s a nobody.

> I am leading BIG in virtually every other poll

(Quoted by @Smapti above)

The Orange Genius ventures into further grammatical innovation. Normal mortals cannot use an adjective (“big”) to modify a verb (“leading”). The correct phrase, of course, also previously innovated by the OG, is “leading bigly”.

ETA: Sorry about the typo – it’s now established convention that Important Words must have leading caps, and VERY important words must be all-caps. So, with apologies, the Orange Genius is “leading BIGLY” in all polls! With the sole exception of the ones where he isn’t, which don’t count.

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Nobody can ever trust Fox News, and I am one of them

I wonder if that counts as an Escher sentence.

> **[Comparative illusion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_illusion)**
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> In linguistics, a comparative illusion (CI) or Escher sentence\[a\] is a comparative sentence which initially seems to be acceptable but upon closer reflection has no well-formed, sensical meaning. The typical example sentence used to typify this phenomenon is More people have been to Russia than I have.\[b\] The effect has also been observed in other languages. Some studies have suggested that, at least in English, the effect is stronger for sentences whose predicate is repeatable. The effect has Es...

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6759 "2024-06-23T11:15:54Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The Orange Genius ventures into further grammatical innovation. Normal mortals cannot use an adjective (“big”) to modify a verb (“leading”). The correct phrase, of course, also previously innovated by the OG, is “leading bigly”.
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> ETA: Sorry about the typo – it’s now established convention that Important Words must have leading caps, and VERY important words must be all-caps. So, with apologies, the Orange Genius is “leading BIGLY” in all polls! With the sole exception of the ones where he isn’t, which don’t count.

I thought OG meant Original Grifter. And isn’t the convention used by the Original Grammarian (“Nobody’s ever heard of Grammar before. Strong men with tears in their eyes come up to me and say Sir!!! Thanks for CREATING grammar! for we big strong men. MAGGATS!”) the more important the blather, the more misused punctuation?

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6760 "2024-06-23T11:17:12Z")

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I find it quite fitting the only other language that article on Wiki is in is Russian.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/6761 "2024-06-23T12:31:38Z")

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> **[Trump’s PAC, Which Pays His Legal Bills, Is Nearly Out of Cash](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-pac-pays-legal-bills-140551897.html)**
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> A fund-raising pact with the Republican Party is expected to replenish the money Donald J. Trump paid his lawyers as he faced three indictments and finished a criminal trial in New York.

_oh no_

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