# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 352
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7022 "2024-07-25T15:08:29Z")
[**FBI Is Not Fully Convinced Trump Was Struck by a Bullet**](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/fbi-is-not-fully-convinced-trump-was-struck-by-a-bullet/ar-BB1qA5IT) > FBI Director Christopher Wray revealed during a marathon testimony on Wednesday that investigators still do not know if former President Donald Trump was grazed by a bullet or a piece of shrapnel during his attempted assassination. > > Twice during the hours-long session, Wray told lawmakers that the FBI was still working to determine what exactly struck the former president on his right ear during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. “My understanding is that either it [a bullet] or some shrapnel is what grazed his ear,” Wray told Rep. Kevin Kiley (R-Calif.). ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7023 "2024-07-25T15:32:39Z")
Please enjoy this hilarious video of a makeup tiktoker teaching us how to achieve Trump’s look. https://www.tiktok.com/embed/v2/7395321024998280491 ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7024 "2024-07-25T16:27:47Z")
Brilliant ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7025 "2024-07-25T16:47:16Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I haven’t read Heather Cox Richards’ newsletter. Did she provide a cite for the existence and identity of the cops who were cut by – something? > [@Atamasama](#): > > Is it possible that Trump doesn’t even know what hit him? I mean that sincerely and not even in a way derogatory towards him. Clearly he couldn’t have _seen_ what hit him, and depending on what the damage looked like afterward it might be difficult or impossible to tell. If he was barely grazed by a bullet, glass, or other piece of debris just enough to cut him the damage might look identical. First, I wrote the name wrong, it’s Heather Cox Richardson. She cited this: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/one-other-detail](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/one-other-detail) > [@](#): > > Here’s a small update on the lack of any word from federal law enforcement or hospital officials on the what and how of the injury Donald Trump suffered last Saturday in western Pennsylvania when a 20-year-old gunman tried to shoot him. As I’ve noted, Pennsylvania State Police [initially told reporters](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/still-looking-for-more-information-on-this) on the scene that Trump had been struck by shards of glass. Then Trump himself said he’d been hit with a bullet and that was the end of the matter. There’s small detail from a local news report from last Sunday that suggests it as at least plausible that the initial report was correct, that Trump was struck by some flying debris. > > A [report from local TV station WPXI at 4:50 PM Sunday](https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/shots-fired-trump-rally-donald-trump-rushed-off-stage/GRXLQ67PEVDPDKDPNNE3AEGMGU/) said this (emphasis added) … > > > 11 Investigates has learned that _ **four Pittsburgh police officers assigned to the former president’s motorcade yesterday suffered minor injuries during the shooting** _. > > > > The four motorcycle officers were part of Donald Trump’s escort to and from the rally in Butler. > > > > Sources tell Chief Investigator Rick Earle _ **the officers were just feet away from Trump** _ when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. > > > > Sources say the officers were _ **hit with either plastic or metal fragments** _ when the bullets struck objects nearby. > > This report certainly doesn’t prove Trump was also hit by flying debris. Trump was the target so the odds of him being struck by a bullet seem, by definition, higher. But it does appear to show pretty conclusively that the gunshots created a spray of flying debris in Trump’s immediate vicinity capable of causing minor injuries. That’s precisely what those initial reports from state law enforcement said happened to Trump, though we still don’t know why. This simply underscores the fact that both possible sources of the injury are very plausible and that we really need law enforcement and/or examining doctors to tell the public what they think happened. Or, perhaps, they don’t know precisely what happened… Bolding not mine. There’s more to the article but I don’t want to quote too much. He says that some people are claiming that the injury we see in press photos isn’t consistent with a grazing firearm injury and that it seems very likely that it wasn’t a bullet injury considering not a drop of information about it has been released. From the [local TV station WPXI](https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/shots-fired-trump-rally-donald-trump-rushed-off-stage/GRXLQ67PEVDPDKDPNNE3AEGMGU/): > [@](#): > > 11 Investigates has learned that four Pittsburgh police officers assigned to the former president’s motorcade yesterday suffered minor injuries during the shooting. > > The four motorcycle officers were part of Donald Trump’s escort to and from the rally in Butler. > > Sources tell Chief Investigator Rick Earle the officers were just feet away from Trump when shots rang out. The four officers suffered minor injuries from flying debris caused by the bullets. > > Sources say the officers were hit with either plastic or metal fragments when the bullets struck objects nearby. > > They were treated at the scene. They were okay to escort Trump back to the airport in Pittsburgh last night after he was treated at Butler Memorial Hospital… ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7026 "2024-07-25T17:02:25Z")
I always plead for [Mar-é-Cage](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/french-english/marecage), because that is exactly what it represents, but nobody ever listens to me. They would probably pronounce it wrongly anyway. Hint: the right way is /maʀekaʒ/ French instead of Spanish, mucho más classy-ísimo. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7027 "2024-07-25T17:12:12Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Bolding not mine. There’s more to the article but I don’t want to quote too much. He says that some people are claiming that the injury we see in press photos isn’t consistent with a grazing firearm injury and that it seems very likely that it wasn’t a bullet injury considering not a drop of information about it has been released. Absolutely. At this point I don’t think we have any way to conclude what hit him, except it was _something_, and that happened while he was shot at. For him to say a bullet hit him isn’t a lie at this point, because maybe it was. Now, if he says he knows for certain it was a bullet, that’s almost surely a lie. But casually referring to it as being shot isn’t necessarily inaccurate. And for Trump, who probably tells a dozen lies before he even wakes up in the morning, that’s pretty good, relatively speaking. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7028 "2024-07-25T17:37:22Z")
I don’t see the repressing of the medical hospital reports after the shooting as being evidence that it wasn’t a bullet. The reports probably had is actual height, weight and blood pressure, what medications that he was on etc. Things that showed that he is not the heathiest person who was ever elected to office. So I would expect them to suppressed under any circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7029 "2024-07-25T17:38:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Is it possible that Trump doesn’t even know what hit him? Also my thinking on this whole bullet/glass shard thing – and further, does it really matter that much? Whatever it was, he came close to dying. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7030 "2024-07-25T17:39:59Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Also my thinking on this whole bullet/glass shard thing – and further, does it really matter that much? Whatever it was, he came close to dying. True. For everything about Trump that bothers me, and FFS I could go for hours, claiming a bullet hit him is probably the last thing. He was hurt in an attempted assassination where someone else died. You might as well be upset if he says the wrong ear was injured, that has about the same amount of relevance. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7031 "2024-07-25T17:44:02Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Please enjoy this hilarious video Indeed hilarious~thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7032 "2024-07-25T17:50:43Z")
I found this video both entertaining and informative. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OC7jv13H7b0/maxresdefault.jpg "The Lincoln Project's Anti-Project 2025 Ad Is a Must Watch") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC7jv13H7b0) It’s the Lincoln Project going over how Project 2025 is going to fuck everyone over, but put in the style of an upbeat old-timey newsreel. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7033 "2024-07-25T17:52:52Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Also my thinking on this whole bullet/glass shard thing – and further, does it really matter that much? Whatever it was, he came close to dying. A bullet means he came lots closer to dying than shards. The bullet going a couple cm towards the other ear would likely be fatal. The shards not so much, although he could have been hurt worse if they’d hit him in the eye. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7034 "2024-07-25T17:57:23Z")
In terms of what hit him, you’re correct. In a larger sense, he came close to being shot with a bullet which fortunately missed its intended target. I say fortunately because, as much as I despise him and all he stands for, his being assassinated or even gravely wounded would have had sparked a whole lot of bad consequences for the country. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7035 "2024-07-25T18:32:52Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Also my thinking on this whole bullet/glass shard thing – and further, does it really matter that much? Whatever it was, he came close to dying. But it does matter. Surviving a _bullet_ plays much better to his worshipping throngs and his exalted legacy than surviving a “mere” piece of debris. It gets them more worked up, more agitated. Remember when Eric trump proclaimed that half his ear had been blown off? When you could clearly see his ear intact at the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7036 "2024-07-25T18:33:30Z")
Or we could go with the less classy but more forceful Spanish (in its original Rioplatense variety) and call it “Me re cago”… (“I’m really really about to shit myself”) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7037 "2024-07-25T18:44:03Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Remember when Eric trump proclaimed that half his ear had been blown off? When you could clearly see his ear intact at the scene. That’s different. That’s exaggerating the extent of his injuries, which is a complete fabrication and bullshit to garner sympathy. Making assumptions about the cause of an injury we may never actually have an answer to isn’t itself a big deal. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I say fortunately because, as much as I despise him and all he stands for, his being assassinated or even gravely wounded would have had sparked a whole lot of bad consequences for the country. Consider where we are at today. Joe Biden has dropped out, Kamala Harris has taken his place, most everyone on the left is coalescing around her and supporting her. The left is energized and motivated. The Republican Party is throwing hissy fits and threatening nonsense lawsuits. If Trump were killed, we’d be seeing nothing but eulogies and memorials, we’d probably have violence in the streets. It would be terrible. The timeline we are in where the bullets missed is undoubtedly the better one. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7038 "2024-07-25T18:46:23Z")
I can accept that too. Interestingly, in the Spain variety of Spanish it would rather mean “I am about to shit myself again”. And “Me requetecago” is made up, but it would mean “I am doubling down on shitting myself again”. But yours is phonetically much closer to the ~~[urinal](https://schumanchu.eu/html/l/l_00112urinal.html)~~ original. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7039 "2024-07-25T19:17:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If Trump were killed, we’d be seeing nothing but eulogies and memorials, we’d probably have violence in the streets. It would be terrible. I don’t know that I believe that. Fiction is full of stories of plucky charismatic leaders who get killed by the evil empire, but that just makes the movement even stronger since they now have a martyr. (Or the genre-savvy evil emperor refuses to kill the plucky charismatic leader to avoid “making a martyr of them”). But the reason the fiction works is because that so often is not the case in real life. I think when Trump goes, he goes like Rush Limbaugh did – forgotten almost immediately. Trump isn’t the face of an idea that is bigger than all of us. He’s somebody who is useful to some people right now. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7040 "2024-07-25T19:20:45Z")
> [@leahcim](#): > > But the reason the fiction works is because that so often is not the case in real life. I think when Trump goes, he goes like Rush Limbaugh did – forgotten almost immediately. Trump isn’t the face of an idea that is bigger than all of us. He’s somebody who is useful to some people right now. If it was a case of Trump choking to death on a hamberder I’d be 100% in agreement with you. In a public assassination attempt during a rally for his reelection campaign? There is absolutely **zero** chance people will shrug and forget it immediately. That’s insane to suggest such a thing. 😆 If you’re talking about a _hypothetical_ thing in the future, sure, but please remember I am specifically talking about this one incident, and what would have happened if it had succeeded, and one reason why it’s good that it didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7041 "2024-07-25T19:54:26Z")
Nice video but what the hell is it with the formatting, You make a lanscape oriented video, and then add top and bottom filler to make it portrait for cell phones and then post that to youtube which landscapes it by adding black bars to the sides. Result in a video that covers about 10% of the screen area. Just post the video in landscape people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=351) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=353)