# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7122 "2024-07-30T04:35:26Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “Obviously, she’s not a white person, and we’ve been accused — attacked — by some white supremacists over that,” he continued. “But I just — I love Usha. She’s such a good mom, she’s such a brilliant lawyer and I’m so proud of her.”

“But you white supremacists are very special and we love you.”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7123 "2024-07-30T05:19:42Z")

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Jeeze. I absolutely suck at golf, and even I can tell his form is awful.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7124 "2024-07-30T05:29:12Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> So do these allegations about fucking a latex glove in a couch cushion have any legs?

Legs as truth? No, not really, because it’s almost certainly nothing but a shitpost that happens to have randomly caught on.

But _as_ a hilarious shitpost? Oh my yes, this absolutely has legs.

To the point that even municipal governments are getting in on the joke.

> <https://x.com/NYCSanitation/status/1817592154228691263>

Because here’s the thing.

> <https://x.com/jeffreynparker/status/1817759543528468808>
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> kevin baker @kevinbaker

We haven’t been getting any traction pointing out that Trump and his minions on the modern Right are a force for evil in the world. They absolutely are, but that’s a rational argument, and it requires you to argue directly with them. And if you’re doing that, you’re letting them set the terms of debate, and that’s a losing path.

What we’ve all suddenly collectively realized is that they’re not just evil — they’re also really fucking _weird._ They’re hateful fascists, but they’re also intensely creepy little goblin men. And that’s something you don’t have to rationally argue: you just recoil from them with a sarcastic chuckle, and everyone acknowledges how bizarre it is that these angry sex-gremlins think they should be in charge of the world.

The joke is not that there’s any realistic possibility Vance actually did have sex with a couch. The joke — and the reason this bit has staying power — is that you look at Vance and realize this is the kind of guy who absolutely _could have_ had sex with a couch.

And the GOP is freaking out in response, because (a) it’s objectively true that they’re an unsettling batch of weirdos, and (b) there is no effective reply.

So keep it up. It’s driving them _nuts_ to be mocked instead of feared.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7125 "2024-07-30T05:53:40Z")

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I would just like it known that I’ve been saying for years exactly what Jeffrey Parker described his professor advocating - **laughing at Fascists**.

That is 100% spot on. People like Trump have a weakness that I don’t think has ever been effectively exploited. They can withstand all sorts of attacks, but they can’t stand being mocked. Simply can’t abide someone genuinely pointing and laughing at them, especially when others are watching.

We should do this a lot more.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7126 "2024-07-30T06:02:52Z")

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It occurs to me, this could be part of why they’re going so hard on Kamala’s laugh. She laughs easily, loud and long. And it terrifies them that they’ll get into a debate situation and she’ll just laugh in his face. So they’re desperately trying to defuse it before it happens.

(By comparison, if Trump has ever been caught on camera simply laughing, just letting loose with mirth, I’m unaware of it. Yet another reason he’s just, like, _so fucking weird,_ man.)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7127 "2024-07-30T06:06:14Z")

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Here’s an interesting story about ~~Bowman~~  ~~Hamel~~ Vance. (The link goes to ABC.)

> **What’s in a name? Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance has had many of them**
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> COLUMBUS, Ohio – When it comes to Republican vice presidential nominee [JD Vance’s](https://apnews.com/hub/jd-vance) name, it’s complicated.

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> (By comparison, if Trump has ever been caught on camera simply laughing, just letting loose with mirth, I’m unaware of it.

Given his tiny voice, you know that his laugh (if he ever does laugh) sounds exactly like a little girl’s.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7128 "2024-07-30T06:07:15Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> (By comparison, if Trump has ever been caught on camera simply laughing, just letting loose with mirth, I’m unaware of it. Yet another reason he’s just, like, _so fucking weird,_ man.)

Penn Jillette was on one of the Apprentice shows with Trump. He’s talked about how he never saw Trump laugh in a real or kindly manner. He saw him laugh AT people, or someone’s misfortune, but never saw him laugh at a joke or tell a real joke. Penn seemed to think Trump had no real sense of humor.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7129 "2024-07-30T06:11:25Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> Penn seemed to think Trump had no real sense of humor.

What do you mean? He makes jokes all the time.

“In my new administration, on day one, I’ll be a dictator. I’m joking! But seriously, let’s go beat up some minorities. Kidding!”

See? Total comedian.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7130 "2024-07-30T07:12:11Z")

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> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#):
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> That is 100% spot on. People like Trump have a weakness that I don’t think has ever been effectively exploited. They can withstand all sorts of attacks, but they can’t stand being mocked. Simply can’t abide someone genuinely pointing and laughing at them, especially when others are watching.

And it especially works because it seems like the only way they know how to rebut being called weird is by **showing everyone how weird they are because they think they’re the normal ones**.

There are quite a few tweets from magaweirdos that seem to boil down with “I’m not weird, you’re the one who likes watching black men have sex with your wife!” There’s a **lot** of sexual insecurity to unpack there.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7131 "2024-07-30T07:51:23Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> What we’ve all suddenly collectively realized is that they’re not just evil — they’re also really fucking _weird._

Agreed. Compare a fascist to Darth Vader and it just pumps them up as they fantasize about swinging a red lightsaber around and choking someone to death with the Force over a Zoom call.

Compare a fascist to Screech from _Saved By the Bell_ and they’re going to start to have anxiety if they think that’s how people see them when they’re on camera behind a podium.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7132 "2024-07-30T09:26:08Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> There were actually some cops at the doughnut shop at the time. They gave the statement “way-oh-way-oh, ooh-way-oh-way-oh”.

I’m picturing Ben Affleck driving one flatbed and Matt Damon driving the other.  
“Is this Bitchin’ or What…?”

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7133 "2024-07-30T09:32:33Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> I find it hard to believe that flipperdotcom is not an actual website.

♫ She calls him Flipper! Flipper! ♫  
♫ Faster than lightning… ♫  
♫ No one you see… ♫  
♫ came harder than she… ♫

🤮

"Next Season, on ‘The Boys’… "

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7134 "2024-07-30T10:12:43Z")

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From another thread…

> [@Who will be Trump's running mate? (J. D. Vance Has Been Chosen)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-will-be-trumps-running-mate-j-d-vance-has-been-chosen/996511/851):
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> OnlyFins screen shot?

I feel “OnlyFins” needs more traction.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7135 "2024-07-30T10:17:22Z")

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That is a terrible putting stroke. But in fairness, from an outcome perspective, I’d say his putting is mediocre (for a weekend golfer).

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7136 "2024-07-30T10:19:55Z")

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What’s with the weird flick at the end of his stroke?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7137 "2024-07-30T10:20:20Z")

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I think it’s old man yip compensation.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7138 "2024-07-30T10:22:40Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> That is a terrible putting stroke. But in fairness, from an outcome perspective, I’d say his putting is mediocre (for a weekend golfer).

Yeah, When I saw that, my first reaction was, “Hey, Trump putts like I do.” and yes, I’m a weekend golfer.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7139 "2024-07-30T10:22:55Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I feel “OnlyFins” needs more traction.

Eh, it’s a catfishing site.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7140 "2024-07-30T10:23:27Z")

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“Catfishing site”? So where is @Gatopescado when we need him?

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7141 "2024-07-30T10:25:38Z")

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I’m gonna add to the “pile on the laugh-at-the-weirdos” chorus. That’s their kryptonite. When the “Trump shits his pants” stories (and “Trump stinks”) started, I posted a few times that this might be what finally alienates his base. They want a mighty badass whose enemies tremble. Not a guy in Depends.

That never seemed to gain the traction Vance’s couch fucking has, but there would be a tipping point. But for the strategy to be effective, we need to be relentless. “You fucking weirdos are hilarious.” Repeat multiple times daily. Show no fear (even if justified), just disdain and amusement.

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