# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7462 "2024-08-11T15:55:39Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> A statement from SchadeCelineDionfreude…

It would been even funnier if she had announced that she was giving Trump full permission to use it because the Titantic metaphor was so appropriate…

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> Trump has been insinuating Walz is somehow beholden to China. Take a wild guess as to [where the Trump-endorsed Bible is printed](https://youtube.com/shorts/vWPAKCJN6q4?si=sf8rALKqFWHRXN9h).

Sure but there, he’s “making a shrewd deal” with China and not at all beholden to them. /s

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
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Just a bit more Schadenfreude in relation to Trump’s ridiculous airplane. He likes it because it looks big and impressive and Trump’s gotta Trump. But to anyone who knows anything about aviation, it’s a laughingstock. It’s obsolete, expensive to maintain, expensive to operate, and compared to modern business jets has relatively limited range and is an astounding fuel-guzzler.

Elon Musk, who could afford any airplane in the world he wanted, owns several Gulfstreams; the one he usually flies is a G650ER which is a reasonable modern bizjet that flies farther and faster than Trump’s ancient relic and with far, far greater fuel efficiency. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos own similar bizjets, though not Gulfstreams. All of them make Trump’s 757 look like a hulking museum piece, which it is.

What brought all this to mind was Trump’s rust bucket having to make an emergency landing in Billings on the way to his rally in Bozeman, which hugely delayed his arrival and further screwed up the alright benighted rally. And this emergency landing was at least the second one I know of – the first was when the rust bucket was pulled out of mothballs and flown from New York to Louisiana for refurbishment. It almost didn’t make it. Both diversions were caused by “mechnical problems”.

Any bets that the rust bucket isn’t being maintained to appropriate standards due to the known cheapness of the orange-hued owner? I’d love to see the FAA ground it for the safety of the public that lives underneath its flight paths.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
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Wouldn’t it be better if it just fell out of the sky mid route?

(And somehow miraculously managed to crash in such a way that the innocent crew and journalists aboard survive.)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> All of them make Trump’s 757 look like a hulking museum piece, which it is.

[Four airlines still use it:](https://simpleflying.com/airlines-still-operating-the-boeing-757-300-april-2023/)

- German leisure operator [Condor](https://simpleflying.com/tag/condor/) (8 active, 1 parked)
- Icelandic full-service carrier Icelandair (2)
- Star Alliance member United Airlines (20 active, 1 parked)
- And Atlanta’s [Delta Air Lines](https://simpleflying.com/tag/delta-air-lines/) (15 active, 1 parked)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7467 "2024-08-11T17:27:57Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Elon Musk, who could afford any airplane in the world he wanted, owns several Gulfstreams; the one he usually flies is a G650ER which is a reasonable modern bizjet that flies farther and faster than Trump’s ancient relic and with far, far greater fuel efficiency. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos own similar bizjets, though not Gulfstreams. All of them make Trump’s 757 look like a hulking museum piece, which it is.

That’s a little harsh. A Gulfstream jet is more fuel efficient than a 757, and it’s also a lot smaller. As someone campaigning for president, Trump probably flies with a large staff and a contingent of journalists. While the 757 is a design from the late-'70s/early-'80s, there are still some airlines using them. As Vice President, Kamala Harris usually flies on an Air Force C-32, which is a modified 757.

> **[Air Force Two](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Two)**
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> Air Force Two is the air traffic control designated call sign held by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the vice president of the United States, but not the president. The term is often associated with the Boeing C-32, a modified 757 which is most commonly used as the vice president's transport. Other 89th Airlift Wing aircraft, such as the Boeing C-40 Clipper, C-20B, C-37A, and C-37B, have also served in this role.\[citation needed\] The VC-25A, the aircraft most often used by th Ric...

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > All of them make Trump’s 757 look like a hulking museum piece, which it is.
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> [Four airlines still use it:](https://simpleflying.com/airlines-still-operating-the-boeing-757-300-april-2023/)

Mostly much newer ones. 16 of Delta’s 757s are the 757-300 model. A significant majority (not all) of the older 757-200s were delivered in the current century, a big chunk of the fleet delivered in 2006 and 2008. Trump’s was built in 1991 and apparently neither the avionics or anything else was ever updated. It also sat out in New Jersey (or maybe it was some New York airport – I forget) weather for four years where it deteriorated to the point of needing significant refurbishment before it was safe to fly again. No airline would ever treat an airplane that way.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> That’s a little harsh. A Gulfstream jet is more fuel efficient than a 757, and it’s also a lot smaller. As someone campaigning for president, Trump probably flies with a large staff and a contingent of journalists.

“More fuel efficient” is an understatement. Of course most of that is due to being much smaller, but the G650 is more than big enough for any normal purpose and is considered the Cadillac of bizjets. Of course Trump needed a plane big enough to contain his ego.

From the pics I’ve seen, Trump’s plane has very limited seating capacity and was certainly not designed with “a large staff and contingent of journalists” in mind when it was retrofitted in 2011. At that time Trump had no serious plans to run for anything – he was much more concerned with gold-plating everything on the plane and sewing fake coat of arms on every seat with gold thread.

Anyway, even Air Force One has seating for only 13 journalists. Trump has absolutely no need for an airframe that in airline configurations can seat as many as 200 passengers. It’s all for show and ego gratification, and I’ll enjoy its future emergency landings.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> As Vice President, Kamala Harris usually flies on an Air Force C-32, which is a modified 757.

And one which is scrupulously maintained and, much like the VC-25, reflects a justifiable need for the space.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> the alright benighted rally

I’m thinking you meant to type _already benighted rally_ but _altright benighted rally_ is a mighty good contender there.

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Every once in a while autocorrect does good work! 😁

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trump is really losing it

> **[Trump spreads false conspiracy theory about...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/11/politics/trump-harris-crowd-size-conspiracy-theory/index.html)**
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> Donald Trump falsely claimed in a series of social media posts Sunday that “nobody” attended Vice President Kamala Harris’ Michigan rally last week — and said his Democratic rival should be “disqualified” over a “fake crowd...

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Man, he really is. Is he at “Howard Hughes at the end” stage, or is that in a couple of weeks?

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The whole Trump/Vance campaign is devolving into weird claims that contradict each other. - Many people are saying that’s weird.

Vance has also been banned from IKEA showrooms - many people are saying.

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> or is that in a couple of weeks?

I’m guessing prior to September 10.

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Just before early voting starts, I certainly hope.

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“And another thing - I’m not mad. Don’t put in the newspaper that I got mad.”

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUvNqetWIAAloEL?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUvNqetWIAAloEL?format=jpg&name=large)

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I’m _soooo_ hoping that if/when Vance debates Walz they have a couch on stage for them. 😁

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> [@solost](#):
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> trump is really losing it

_He then said Harris should be “disqualified” from the 2024 election “because the creation of a fake image is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. Anyone who does that will cheat at ANYTHING!”_

His Dingy has slipped a cleat.

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> He then said Harris should be “disqualified” from the 2024 election “because the creation of a fake image is ELECTION INTERFERENCE. Anyone who does that will cheat at ANYTHING!”

The level of projection that he engages in is truly breathtaking.

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No kidding. Vance was on CNN with Dana Bash saying something like Harris doesn’t have any policy, she just engages in Name-calling.

I almost shit my pants laughing.

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Dingy? Dinghy? But, yeah, with that dingbat, I’m going with your spelling.

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