# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Individual-ONE is [locked out of selling](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-soon-free-sell-stake-151519197.html) any of his stake in the company for about another month. His stake is _currently_ worth about $2.5B (less, really, because it is pretty hard to sell a large block without causing a price drop). According to the article, that block amounts to more than half his supposed net worth.

I may be experiencing premature schadenfreude, but: imagine that the Truth Social stock continues to go down, down, down…with the likelihood that Trump’s supposed net worth will be neatly cut in half…and imagine how his state of mind will lead him to behave at the September 10 debate with Harris. (He pretty much has to show up as it’s the only thing that could change his downward trend in the polls.)

It seems certain that he will, at the very least, use BOTH “N-words”: “nasty” and The Big One.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> “nasty”

100%. It’s one of his favorites to use against women who dare to confront him in public.

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> The Big One.

I have no reason to doubt reports that he used it during The Apprentice, but we’ve been watching him babble his stream of consciousness speeches for years now and he’s never - so far as I know - even stumbled towards that word. I’ll be extraordinarily surprised if he does it now.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
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Maybe. I betcha there’s real-money betting on the possibility, though. The more stressed he gets…

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7965 "2024-08-29T00:19:46Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> …but we’ve been watching him babble his stream of consciousness speeches for years now and he’s never - so far as I know - even stumbled towards that word.

He can’t spell it.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7966 "2024-08-29T00:27:33Z")

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> [@SwissMan](#):
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> There is a caveat that the salary goes away if Sasse gets another job.

“Are you looking for another job Mr. Sasse?”

“Oh yes indeed. Looking very hard. I’ll let you know”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7967 "2024-08-29T02:45:03Z")

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“Just another two weeks” can stretch into four years pretty easily, y’know.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7968 "2024-08-29T03:52:08Z")

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I’m still waiting for the tax returns Trump promised to release in 2016.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7969 "2024-08-29T10:17:01Z")

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Don’t forget the amazing and beautiful health care plan promised in 2017.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7970 "2024-08-29T10:31:05Z")

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Hah! Do you really think the magaflatearthers consider actually having a health plan in place important? No. Their concern was to have “Obamacare” canceled. That’s what was important to them.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7971 "2024-08-29T10:38:03Z")

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Trump obviously didn’t care about anything but his pathetic ‘revenge’ against Obama. And yet these people still think he cares about them. Fuckin’ rubes.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7972 "2024-08-29T10:41:55Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I’m still waiting for the tax returns Trump promised to release in 2016.

I’m still voting that Judge Merchan, as sentence for his crimes, punish Trump by making him do all the things that he promised to do that had no external dependencies (e.g. not something he had to sell Congress on, just things he could do by himself) and to pay back the people for the things that he promised not to do but actually did. E.g. he has to release his tax returns, work community service equivalent to the amount of Presidential time that he spent golfing, return any emoluments, divest from his businesses for a period of four years, etc.

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**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/7973 "2024-08-29T17:34:04Z")

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Great idea! If only it could be.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> Hah! Do you really think the magaflatearthers consider actually having a health plan in place important? No. Their concern was to have “Obamacare” canceled. That’s what was important to them.

Some of those same people were quite happy with the Affordable Healthcare Act. It was only when you called it Obamacare that it was the devil.

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Not that this will make any difference with his supporters, but it’s good to see an official rebuke come from the military:

> **[US Army rebukes Trump campaign for incident at Arlington National Cemetery |...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/29/politics/us-army-rebukes-trump-campaign-arlington-incident/index.html)**
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> The US Army issued a stark rebuke of former President Donald Trump’s presidential campaign over the incident on Monday at Arlington National Cemetery, saying in a statement on Thursday that participants in the ceremony “were...

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Absofreakinlutely!

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> I’m still voting that Judge Merchan, as sentence for his crimes, punish Trump by making him do all the things that he promised to do that had no external dependencies (e.g. not something he had to sell Congress on, just things he could do by himself) and to pay back the people for the things that he promised not to do but actually did. E.g. he has to release his tax returns, work community service equivalent to the amount of Presidential time that he spent golfing, return any emoluments, divest from his businesses for a period of four years, etc.

I think I love you.

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Jack White of the White Stripes is suing Trump for using his song. Just one more little expense to chip away at Orange Foolius.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> My sense is that Vance is, in essence, there to be a voice for Thiel and Libertarian techies. Trump wants him not because he likes the guy. He just wants access to the money in that realm.

And so it is: [JD Vance urges billionaire Peter Thiel to help bankroll Trump campaign](https://on.ft.com/3XlqH6f)

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There’s supposed to be a limit to how much an individual can donate to a political campaign, right? Trump’s going to have to cut way back if Thiel is footing the whole bill.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> There’s supposed to be a limit to how much an individual can donate to a political campaign, right?

Directly, yes. What Vance is likely proposing is Thiel donate to (or set up) a Super PAC, to which donations are unlimited. Legally, a Super PAC isn’t allowed to “coordinate” with a candidate’s campaign, but they can (and do) buy lots of advertising in support of their candidates.

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I know. Does a vide-presidential candidate asking an individual, by name, to donate to a PAC count as illegal coordination between the PAC and campaign?

If not, what does?

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