# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> So apparently the Trump campaign is running ads in Georgia using the wrong image. Instead of an image of the US State, it’s an image of the former Soviet Republic

[Balalaika music]

Moskva – proved too much for the man  
(too much for the man)  
(he couldn’t make it)  
So he’s leaving th life he’s come to know,oh

He’s leaving (leaving)  
On that midnight train to Tbilisi Georgia

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8483 "2024-09-23T17:24:22Z")

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Trump never screws up. He was asking USSR Georgia to vote for him. Depending on where he intends to move to, he’s being smart.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8484 "2024-09-23T17:35:56Z")

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It doesn’t really fit here but I can’t resist:

# US ELECTION LATEST: Shocking New Poll Predicts Dark Horse Victory For Write-In Candidate Seymour Butts With 589% Of Votes.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8485 "2024-09-23T18:38:30Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I always heard University of Common Little Adults.

That sounds like something a Trojan would say.

I remember University of Caucasians Lost among Asians.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8486 "2024-09-23T18:44:09Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> i watched it on friday. really enjoyed it. very well done and insightful on how someone can get pulled into the cult of trump. also the title of it makes me smile. a good doc. and word play, can’t go wrong.

100% Agree.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Akaj](#):
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> > I always heard University of Common Little Adults.
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> That sounds like something a Trojan would say.

Not even close – I’ve never lived or studied anywhere west of Iowa. I think I remember it from a long-ago _Sports Illustrated_ article on the USC-UCLA rivalry.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8488 "2024-09-24T00:44:03Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> From your link:
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> > “ATTENTION GEORGIA: I’m humbling asking you to stop what you’re doing and check your voter registration status”.

Unless, of course, you’re in the process of buying Trump coins, Bibles, or other assorted crap.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8489 "2024-09-24T23:42:11Z")

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Lapdog Lindsey [complains](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIbqTKkBQa8) about how the Democrats are unfairly associating Trump with his good buddy “Martin Luther King on steroids”.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8490 "2024-09-25T01:36:14Z")

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To paraphrase **Boondocks** …

_“I really should have some Approvals over this”_

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8491 "2024-09-25T01:54:42Z")

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Quoted (approximately) from Graham in your link

"It would be unfair to say that someone you wrote a letter about or even your own pastor that you owned every stupid little thing he did, we’d be crucified politically politically if we did that "

[Oh really?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Wright_controversy)

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8492 "2024-09-25T12:50:48Z")

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I think I’m allowed to say this in the Pit:

Lindsey Graham has the smallest testicles in the world. The man absolutely lacks any conviction whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8493 "2024-09-25T14:06:08Z")

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You can say that because we’re in the Ball Pit

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
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Lindsay Graham’s complete U-turn from John McCain BFF to Trump toady is one of the most baffling things I’ve seen in recent politics. Trump must really have some dirt on Lindsay that he desperately doesn’t want to get out.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8495 "2024-09-25T14:51:18Z")

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It’s not baffling at all.

Graham is the ultimate lickspittle. He attaches himself to whoever he sees as the biggest swinging dick alpha male he can find and publicly expresses his subservience to him.

When that’s somebody like John McCain, who had ethical standards at all, Graham is left with room to still look like a relatively normal person under the bounds of ‘normal’ politics.

When that person is Trump, who has no ethics, Graham is left with no room to look normal and appears to be the weak-willed toady he’s always been.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8496 "2024-09-25T15:20:37Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> He attaches himself to whoever he sees as the biggest swinging dick alpha male he can find and publicly expresses his subservience to him.

Graham was convinced that Trump was unelectable in 2016 and stated that he didn’t vote for Trump, and he predicted that the GOP would get ‘slaughtered’ in that election.

When he realized that Trump was attracting many more voters than he (Graham) anticipated, he quickly became DJT’s #1 fanboy. And he’s remained that way ever since.

[cite from CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/22/opinions/lindsey-graham-political-transformation-bond/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8497 "2024-09-25T15:22:12Z")

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I’ve always said that Graham is a remora. He’ll attach himself to the biggest shark he can find.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8498 "2024-09-25T16:39:42Z")

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A Haitian group is [suing Trump and Vance](https://www.yahoo.com/news/want-judge-issue-arrest-warrants-195012284.html) for knowingly spreading false claims about immigrants eating cats and dogs.

I’m not a lawyer, but I always understood libel/slander suits to be tough to prove because you have to show that the liar knew the story was false and knew or should have known it could cause harm, or spread it in order to cause harm. Many times it’s tough to prove one or the other parts of that, but here we have Vance admitting to making it up and Trump’s history of demonizing immigrants and calling for violence against groups or individuals he doesn’t like - and his supporters’ history of responding to such calls. How many people who testified against Trump, or participated in lawsuits against him or otherwise criticized him publicly, have received death threats? It would be hard to say he would be unaware that could happen.

Again, not a lawyer, but looks to me like they have a decent case.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8499 "2024-09-25T16:52:17Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> I’m not a lawyer, but I always understood libel/slander suits to be tough to prove because you have to show that the liar knew the story was false and knew or should have known it could cause harm, or spread it in order to cause harm.

This isn’t that kind of suit. They’re asking that criminal charges be brought against Trump and Vance.

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8500 "2024-09-25T16:56:17Z")

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Well, even better. And if T&V are convicted, civil suits will hopefully follow.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8501 "2024-09-25T17:06:25Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> Again, not a lawyer, but looks to me like they have a decent case.

Unfortunately they don’t.

We have very strong free speech laws in this country and the exceptions are few and far between. It’s my understanding that groups can’t sue for defamation only individuals, so unless Trump and Vance singled out a specific Haitian that they said ate cats they can’t be sued of defamation.

But as Procrustus says they aren’t going that route. The criminal route as also going to be a non starter. In order to be criminal either they would have to order the bomb threats directly or they would have to incite, in which case the actions would have had to taken place almost immediately after Trump and Vance made their statements. In fact there aren’t any direct crimes listed in the complaint.

This is really just a publicity stunt to draw attention to Trump and Vance’s misdeads.

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