# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8762 "2024-10-08T20:17:30Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Unfortunately for Melania, I think Donald has made that impossible.

Melania is as much of a grifter as Donald is. It wouldn’t surprise me if she is having work done on a book detailing Barron’s life growing up in the White House. Of course, “written” by Barron.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8763 "2024-10-08T20:18:48Z")

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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> When it happens to conservative states it’s because Democrats control the weather.

Can’t all those Christians in these conservative states step up their thoughts & prayers to counteract the liberal weather controlling machine? God surely is mightier than man’s machines!

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8764 "2024-10-08T20:41:10Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Melania is as much of a grifter as Donald is

Possibly in intent, certainly not by amount of practice and acquired “skill” (if I can use that word in this context). She may be more realistic, or just have smaller goals. All of this says nothing about her wishes for her son’s future. She may hope that he grows up to be the best Man on a White Horse ever, becomes president, and she can rule like the dowager empress. Or she may hope that he leads a relatively quiet life accumulating lots of money in a more-or-less legitimate way. I don’t think we have sufficient evidence to say either way.

(Trump’s skill, by the way, is not to make the cons and grifts work, except for himself, but to allow himself to slide out from under without a noticeable stain on his character.)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8765 "2024-10-08T20:48:20Z")

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> [@Catamount](#):
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> No, it’s just f’ng offensive to say that all the chaos and destruction we’re going through is God punishment. Also, how do you explain Asheville getting wiped out?

The point that you are missing is that I am pretty positive that Johnny\_L.A. does not actually believe that hurricanes are in fact god’s punishment of the South. He is merely using that observation as a rhetorical device to point out the obvious fallacy in the christian nationalist argument that hurricanes are punishment for America’s liberalism. In that if we accept their claims that god uses Hurricanes to punish people’s political views, its their views that are the ones god doesn’t like.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8766 "2024-10-08T21:17:21Z")

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I wonder if Truth Social spent the money required to set up backup/recovery site.

I also wonder if that’s a silly question.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8767 "2024-10-08T21:44:13Z")

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Lord knows how often I’ve said this exact same thing. The lunatic is literally running the asylum:

> **[Press fail: Donald Trump is now normalized](https://www.salon.com/2024/10/08/the-problem-with-reporting-on-donald-is-the-press-never-took-him-seriously/)**
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> The problem with reporting on Donald Trump is the press never took him seriously

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8768 "2024-10-08T21:46:06Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I think Melania knows full well what Donald has in store for Barron, and I think she wants to keep him away from the grifting, the cons, the cheating, the lawsuits, the lawyers, and so on

What makes you think this? Both Barron and Melanis seem like horrible people who would be 100% in on any grifting.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> In that if we accept their claims that god uses Hurricanes to punish people’s political views, its their views that are the ones god doesn’t like.

I’m waiting for one of them to break and flat out say there’s a new war in Heaven between the True God, Yahweh, and that woke communist Jesus.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8770 "2024-10-08T22:17:20Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> What makes you think this?

Because reports are that she is overly protective of him.

> **[Melania Trump Is 'Very Protective' of Barron, 17, and Spends Little Time...](https://people.com/politics/melania-trump-barron-family-mar-a-lago/)**
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> Melania Trump is leaning on her family — her parents and her 17-year-old son, Barron — in Palm Beach while Donald Trump awaits a possible indictment

While that article casts it in a good light, I don’t see it that way.

Here is a less-flattering article:

> **[‘Little Melania’: New high school graduate Barron Trump is still protected by...](https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/05/17/little-melania-new-high-school-graduate-barron-trump-is-still-protected-by-mom-report/)**
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> Melania Trump has reportedly locked herself in a ‘tight bubble’ in Mar-a-Lago, with her priority being to shelter Barron from his father’s controversies.

Melania was also ticked off that Trump used Barron as an excuse for postponing things at his criminal trial.

Though weirdly, a more recent article cites the same source (Stephanie Grisham) saying that Melania is _not_ that protective.

> **[Melania Trump is not an overprotective mom, says ex-aide as she reveals her...](https://news.meaww.com/melania-trumps-ex-aide-reveals-her-real-side-with-son-barron-tosses-out-the-overprotective-mother-image)**
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> Melania Trump's former aide Stephanie Grisham revealed that the former first lady is not the ultimate 'mama bear' kind of parent to her son Barron

Compare these quotes:

> Stephanie Grisham — who served as a top White House aide to Melania Trump before a falling out over the former first lady’s indifference to speaking out during the Jan. 6 insurrection – said Melania “wasn’t happy” that her husband talked about Barron in the context of his criminal case.
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> “He talked about missing Barron’s graduation to the cameras and then again on Truth Social because it (created) a lot of coverage about that and it’s just not something she would have liked,” Grisham said.

And then:

> Stephanie Grisham revealed that Melania is not the ultimate mama bear kind of parent to her 18-year-old son.
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> Speaking to Nicki Swift about Barron’s involvement in his father Donald Trump’s political campaign, the former aide claimed Melania was more lenient to Barron than anyone could assume.
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> “She always felt it was important to let [Barron] make his own choices, so I doubt this is any different,” Grisham said.

In one quote she’s implying a lot of protectiveness, but not in the other.

🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8771 "2024-10-08T22:31:28Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I’m waiting for one of them to break and flat out say there’s a new war in Heaven between the True God, Yahweh, and that woke communist Jesus.

So Jesus is both Christ and anti-Christ? If he looks in a mirror, will he cancel himself out and disappear?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
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> [@Fugazi](#):
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> …because Democrats control the weather…

C’mon! We all know who controls the weather! It’s the…

Someone’s at the door. Be right back…

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8773 "2024-10-08T22:51:14Z")

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It sounds like she wants to do whatever she can to keep him from getting used by Trump, and infected with the Merdes touch, but that in the end he can make his own decisions.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8774 "2024-10-08T22:56:00Z")

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That sounds too much like being a good mom for me to totally trust that. But maybe.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8775 "2024-10-09T00:03:53Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> Elon Musk “joking” with Tucker Carlson that Kamala Harris will send him to Prison if she wins. Remind me, which candidate openly speaks about silencing his critics and jailing people who get in his way?

Could it be possible that Musk is currently under federal investigation and banking on Trump winning and pardoning him, which could explain the projection, and the mad jumping at Trump’s rally?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Merdes touch

Tres Bon!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8777 "2024-10-09T02:59:28Z")

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> [@Steve\_McQwark](#):
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> > [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> > I’m waiting for one of them to break and flat out say there’s a new war in Heaven between the True God, Yahweh, and that woke communist Jesus.
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> So Jesus is both Christ and anti-Christ? If he looks in a mirror, will he cancel himself out and disappear?

There’s a doctrine which holds that the deity of the Old Testament and the deity of the New Testament are different deities. It’s called [_Marcionism_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism). And you know damn well which one they worship.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8778 "2024-10-09T03:11:10Z")

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I read once that the bible should be republished in the format of the old Ace doubles. One side would be called, “The War God of Isreal,” and the flip side would be titled, “The Thing with Three Souls.”

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> Both Barron and Melanis seem like horrible people

I’ll give you Melania, she has at least exposed herself to that interpretation. But it seems like a lot to lay on someone as little exposed as Barron has been in his 18-1/2 years.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8780 "2024-10-09T06:14:54Z")

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Well, it should piss him off at the very least.

> <https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/1843860543947583651?t=ZuXS3tXDjAORCszAzlm-pw&s=19>

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/8781 "2024-10-09T06:26:38Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Well, it should piss him off at the very least.

Fake news!

(Seriously, that made me laugh out loud. Thanks!)

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