# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 470
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9382 "2024-11-10T04:58:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Nixon pulling a similar trick with South Vietnam in 1968 is [pretty well-established, by comparison.](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461/) Right… I think I got the two mixed up. Similar Republican chicanery. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9383 "2024-11-10T05:38:10Z")
McConnell may be an evil asshole but unlike some I actually think he cares about whether the country is destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9384 "2024-11-10T09:35:42Z")
Yeah. He sees that killing the goose will stop the flow of golden eggs. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9385 "2024-11-10T10:41:58Z")
To give her a crumb of credit, I don’t think she’s ever or would ever do that to him. Can’t it just be plain old brown nosing? And I think Pompeo had Presidential ambitions, so of course he’s out. In the years ahead, the paintertainment (I sole it and don’t care) of so many faces being eaten will be how I get through the day. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9386 "2024-11-10T16:42:19Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > And I think Pompeo had **Presidential ambitions** , so of course he’s out. [my bolding] If another assassination attempt is made against Trump, my “friendly” advice to him is to look at JD Vance first. Just doing my patriotic duty. /s How can I make sure that he sees this? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9387 "2024-11-10T17:06:57Z")
“John Cornyn, is an angry liberal whose politics are indistinguishable from Liz Cheney’s.” I just can’t parse any part of that sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9388 "2024-11-10T17:19:13Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > But wasn’t that only as a means of threatening our allies? (_Our_ as in America’s, not Trump’s.) I’m not aware of how drawing out of Syria or Afghanistan did anything to any allies. Maybe the former would have been opposed by Israel, but I never saw any mention of it from them (possibly because the US military refused to obey). ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9389 "2024-11-10T20:38:56Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > McConnell may be an evil asshole but unlike some I actually think he cares about whether the country is destroyed. > [@Monty](#): > > Yeah. He sees that killing the goose will stop the flow of golden eggs This is true, but I think it goes further. McConnell is smart enough to see that if Trump does succeed in his goal of being a President-for-Life dictator, then Congress turns into the Duma. (As Rachel Maddow said, when was the last time you heard anything about what Russia’s legislature has done?) McConnell wants a legacy. Having been the head of an irrelevant sham legislature, continuing to exist only as fake-democratic window-dressing for a de-facto King, is NOT that legacy. (Of course on some level many of us would feel schadenfreude for poor Mitch, given the irony of him going down in history as Moscow Mitch, the leader of a fake-as-of-2025 legislature, but…) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9390 "2024-11-10T22:28:51Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “John Cornyn, is an angry liberal whose politics are indistinguishable from Liz Cheney’s.” > > I just can’t parse any part of that sentence. You just need to realize that in that sentence the word “liberal” is interchangeable with “Trump-hating RINO”. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9391 "2024-11-10T22:31:23Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > McConnell wants a legacy. Having been the head of an irrelevant sham legislature, continuing to exist only as fake-democratic window-dressing for a de-facto King, is NOT that legacy. Instead, he’ll have the legacy of being the guy who could have stopped this by supporting either of the two impeachments of Trump, but who instead decided to let him off the hook. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9392 "2024-11-10T22:45:22Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Instead, he’ll have the legacy of being the guy who could have stopped this by supporting either of the two impeachments of Trump, but who instead decided to let him off the hook. Oh, definitely. We won’t forget. However, recent events indicate that **lots** of people _would_ forget if they ever knew it, which they probably don’t. 🫤 Still, McConnell would probably prefer that Congress remain “important” in the eyes of those who pay attention to the news (of whatever partisan persuasion). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9393 "2024-11-10T23:20:17Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Instead, he’ll have the legacy of being the guy who could have stopped this by supporting either of the two impeachments of Trump, but who instead decided to let him off the hook. You might say he froze up. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9394 "2024-11-11T02:21:49Z")
> **[Renfamous⭐️ (@renfamous.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/renfamous.bsky.social/post/3lan4njds6d2b)** > > Just checked in on Threads and they’re posting Nick Fuentes’s home address under the header “your body, anyone’s choice”. We might need to step it up over here. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9395 "2024-11-11T03:50:50Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > But wasn’t that only as a means of threatening our allies? (_Our_ as in America’s, not Trump’s.) > > I’m not aware of how drawing out of Syria or Afghanistan did anything to any allies. Afghanistan at the time was our ally. And he threatened to unilaterally lower our military presence in South Korea. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9396 "2024-11-11T07:10:28Z")
> **[Rudy Giuliani Says He’s Too Broke to Buy Food Amid Defamation Suit Struggle](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rudy-giuliani-says-hes-too-broke-to-buy-food-amid-defamation-suit-struggle/)** > > The Trump ally begged for donations to help pay off the $148 million judgment from his election worker defamation suit. [![](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/e/e9/Nelson_Ha-Ha.jpg) ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/e/e9/Nelson_Ha-Ha.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9397 "2024-11-11T07:34:22Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’m not aware of how drawing out of Syria or Afghanistan did anything to any allies. Look up “Kurds” Or “Trumps betrayal of the Kurds” Or “US betray Kurds, again” If that doesn’t ruin your day find out what happened to the people that worked as translators for the US (or any other NATO country) forces in Afghanistan. I guess they weren’t white enough to matter. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9398 "2024-11-11T10:43:25Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > I guess they weren’t white enough to matter. They still aren’t. The new regime in the US is firmly anti-immigrant and they certainly don’t care about refugees. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9399 "2024-11-11T13:21:26Z")
Not sure where to put this – it doesn’t exactly fit any thread, but it’s not worth starting a new one over. “Alright! Who decided to put election season so close to Halloween?” groused Opus in an old _Bloom County_ strip. It’s that happy concatenation of events that allowed this wonderful image – one of my neighbors has one of those 12-foot-tall skeletons on his lawn. It’s a particularly demonic-looking one, with scowling face and carrying a chain. At night it’s lit from within with a purple light. And there are more, normal-sized but evil skeletons elsewhere on the lawn. They’re all arrayed around a huge banner reading TRUMP 2024 And a flag with same. Truly a vision from Hell. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9400 "2024-11-11T15:03:33Z")
> [@TheTooth](#): > > How can anyone look at Donald Trump and see a patriot? Hey, he _loves_ the flag. > [@](#): > > Guarantee of a Republican Form of Government Isn’t that what we just got? > [@Horatius](#): > > John Cornyn, is an angry liberal whose politics are indistinguishable from Liz Cheney’s.” > > I just can’t parse any part of that sentence. Let me try: “John Cornyn did something I don’t like, just like Liz Cheney did something I don’t like, so I’m going to slander them with the worst insult I can think of.” But a far as literal meaning, John Cornyn is only a liberal compared to Ted Cruz, and Liz Cheney has far right views herself, she just has some modicum of respect for democracy. She’s a bit further right than Cornyn. > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I’m not aware of how drawing out of Syria or Afghanistan did anything to any allies. He did threaten to pull out of NATO. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9401 "2024-11-11T15:50:36Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > He did threaten to pull out of NATO. Thankfully, that would require an act of congress. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=469) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=471)