# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 472
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9422 "2024-11-12T06:03:31Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > The Monorail episode, right? I hear those things are awfully loud. ---
**Author:** ![saje](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saje/32/3631_2.png) [@saje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saje)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9423 "2024-11-12T11:00:58Z")
This isn’t Trump & Co, but it’s such a perfect Leopard situation. Heads up, MAGAtaliban, you’re next on the menu: From Heather Cox Richardson: > In September, as the Taliban enforced new rules on women in Afghanistan, they also began to target Afghan men. New laws mandated that men stop wearing western jeans, stop cutting their hair and beards in western ways, and stop looking at women other than their wives or female relatives. Religious morality officers are knocking on the doors of those who haven’t recently attended mosque to remind them they can be tried and sentenced for repeated nonattendance, and government employees are afraid they’ll be fired if they don’t grow their beards. According to Rick Noack of the Washington Post, such restrictions surprised men, who were accustomed to enjoying power in their society. Some have been wondering if they should have spoken up to defend the freedoms of their wives and daughters. > > One man who had supported the Taliban said he now feels bullied. “We all are practicing Muslims and know what is mandatory or not. But it’s unacceptable to use force on us,” he said. Speaking on the condition of anonymity because he feared drawing the attention of the regime, another man from Kabul said: “If men had raised their voices, we might also be in a different situation now.” ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9424 "2024-11-12T13:09:47Z")
I have a few relatives by marriage who are hardcore Christian fundamentalists. They often go on about how this is a Christian nation and should be run as such. Prayer in schools, the whole thing. They would absolutely mandate church attendance if they could. One of the few lines of argument that really, really gets under their skin(s?) is “You know, the day after you get this great Christian Republic you wan, the Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, etc are going to start fighting over who is really in charge.” They really don’t like that, I think because they know it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9425 "2024-11-12T13:56:38Z")
> [@saje](#): > > This isn’t Trump & Co, but it’s such a perfect Leopard situation. Heads up, MAGAtaliban, you’re next on the menu: > [@saje](#): > > another man from Kabul said: “If men had raised their voices, we might also be in a different situation now.” “First they came for…” > [@OldOlds](#): > > I have a few relatives by marriage who are hardcore Christian fundamentalists. They often go on about how this is a Christian nation and should be run as such. Prayer in schools, the whole thing. They would absolutely mandate church attendance if they could. I usually annoy such people by pointing out that it’s _not_ a Christian nation nor was it founded on “Christian principles”, as several of the founders said explicitly. It’s a secular nation founded on secular Enlightenment principles. They get _really_ irked when I tell them what Jefferson said about belief in the divinity of Jesus. There’s also the small matter of the First Amendment; the people demanding the supremacy of Christianity in America are often the same ones crowing about defending the Constitution. But then hypocrisy seems to be fundamental [sic] to that lot. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9426 "2024-11-12T14:00:33Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There’s also the small matter of the First Amendment; the people demanding the supremacy of Christianity in America are often the same ones crowing about defending the Constitution. But then hypocrisy seems to be fundamental [sic] to that lot. Just the parts of the Constitution that they like. You know, like with the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9427 "2024-11-12T14:03:35Z")
If it was founded as a Christian nation then someone needs to explain the clear contradiction between the First Amendment and the First Commandment. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9428 "2024-11-12T14:15:18Z")
It’s much harder to beat someone with the Bible if you open it first. I’m still trying to get that to go viral, so please feel free to disseminate. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9429 "2024-11-12T14:56:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There’s also the small matter of the First Amendment; the people demanding the supremacy of Christianity in America are often the same ones crowing about defending the Constitution. SCOTUS has already shown a willingness to morph the First Amendment to allow various religious encroachments. The “no religious test” clause will probably be harder for them to originalist/textualist themselves around. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9430 "2024-11-12T15:12:37Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > SCOTUS has already shown a willingness to morph the First Amendment to allow various religious encroachments. The “no religious test” clause will probably be harder for them to originalist/textualist themselves around. They can simply disincorporate it; that is, go to the original interpretation that it applies only to the federal government and not the states themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9431 "2024-11-12T15:27:27Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > The “no religious test” clause will probably be harder for them to originalist/textualist themselves around. Just adopt a particular definition of “test”: > a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use “We didn’t require him to be a _good_ Christian! Just asking if they _are_ Christian doesn’t “establish the quality, performance, or reliability” of their faith!” ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9432 "2024-11-12T15:32:42Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s a secular nation founded on secular Enlightenment principles. They get _really_ irked when I tell them what Jefferson said about belief in the divinity of Jesus. Show 'em _The Jefferson Bible_. It’s the New Testament with all the God parts left out. You can get a really neat photoreproduced page-by-page copy from the Smithsonian, in a binding that reproduces the one Jefferson had. > **[The Jefferson Bible, Smithsonian Edition: The Life and Morals of Jesus of...](https://www.smithsonianbooks.com/store/history/the-jefferson-bible-smithsonian-edition-the-life-and-morals-of-jesus-of-nazareth/)** > > The Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth as it is formally titled, was Thomas Jefferson's effort to extract what he considere… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9433 "2024-11-12T15:38:08Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > The “no religious test” clause will probably be harder for them to originalist/textualist themselves around. Why would it be? They can do just like they did when they anointed Trump king: make a ruling ignoring the constitution. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9434 "2024-11-12T16:30:45Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Don’t worry Rudy, you can always get SNAP SNAP doesn’t cover alcohol which is Giuliani’s primary food group. So it won’t help much. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9435 "2024-11-12T17:23:29Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s much harder to beat someone with the Bible if you open it first. > > I’m still trying to get that to go viral, so please feel free to disseminate. Done. Just said it to my wife. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9436 "2024-11-12T17:52:23Z")
One step at a time… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9437 "2024-11-12T18:08:12Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > If it was founded as a Christian nation then someone needs to explain the clear contradiction between the First Amendment and the First Commandment. Not to mention Art. VI, cl. 3: “… no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9438 "2024-11-12T18:28:47Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > SNAP doesn’t cover alcohol which is Giuliani’s primary food group. So it won’t help much. And even if SNAP did, I think Rudy would drink his monthly benefit on the first day before noon. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9439 "2024-11-12T23:28:14Z")
Rudy could probably use SNAP to get the ingredients for pruno, though. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9440 "2024-11-12T23:44:29Z")
I’m confident that Rudy will quickly learn the basics… You can trade $100 worth of SNAP food for $50 in booze. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9441 "2024-11-13T03:37:24Z")
Supreme Court rules against Mark Meadows moving case from state court to federal court. Glenn Kirschner [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mntNQMDsdM0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mntNQMDsdM0) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=471) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=473)