# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 493
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9842 "2025-01-10T19:10:52Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I have no idea what the hell he was thinking or why he would think this was a fair and just outcome. Is there a basis to appeal a conviction once the sentence is “completed”? Perhaps the outcome preemptively denies any appeal because it’s all moot. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9843 "2025-01-10T20:09:07Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Climate change denier cries on TV over losing his house to the apocalyptic fires that are happening for no reason. It should be noted that Trump’s interest in Greenland is because he accepts that climate change has opened the Arctic for naval passage. The GW Bush administration, likewise, was regularly in discussion about the national security implications of this matter. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9844 "2025-01-10T20:22:07Z")
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9845 "2025-01-10T21:07:07Z")
This one is particularly tasty in light of Trump’s “Claim Canada!” routine this week. > **['Unfair': MAGA rioter who fled country cries foul after Canada arrests him](https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-rioter-arrest-2670785976/)** > > A man who fled the country after being convicted for his actions during the January 6th Capitol riots is crying foul after authorities in Canada placed him under arrest.CBC reports that convicted MAGA rioter Anthony Vo was arrested this week in... ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9846 "2025-01-10T22:45:55Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Perhaps the outcome preemptively denies any appeal because it’s all moot. No, Trump can (and will) appeal the conviction even though sentence has been imposed. Technically. And technically, _Trump was NOT yet “a felon” until today._ Imposing the sentence–even though it includes no penalties of any kind– **made** Trump a felon. I share in the feelings of those outraged that Trump paid no penalty. However, Merchan’s choice is not really pro-Donald. **His choice will make it very hard for any appellate court–or for Donald’s fans on SCOTUS–to overturn the conviction.** Which they might have done on the basis of ‘you can’t impose onerous conditions on a President.’ Merchan imposed NO conditions, so that legal argument is undercut completely. For an appeal to work now to turn Donald back into a non-felon, the court in question would have to find that the SCOTUS immunity ruling _applied to Donald back in 2016 and early 2017 when he was not yet President._ And it would take the stupidity/corruption of Aileen Cannon to make such an assertion. It’s possible that neither appellate courts in New York State nor SCOTUS will be able to bring themselves to descend to the level of an Aileen Cannon. A good summary: > **[Trump was sentenced to an ‘unconditional discharge’ in his hush money...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-was-sentenced-to-an-unconditional-discharge-in-his-hush-money-conviction-heres-what-that-means)** > > During the sentencing, Justice Juan Merchan said he was keenly aware of the unique set of circumstances before him and the country. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9847 "2025-01-10T23:18:09Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > And technically, _Trump was NOT yet “a felon” until today._ Imposing the sentence–even though it includes no penalties of any kind– **made** Trump a felon. I don’t know why this misinformation keeps being spread. You are a felon once convicted. Sentencing does not make you a felon. Once a jury determines you are guilty, at that moment you are legally a felon. > **[felon](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/felon)** > A felon is a person who has committed a felony. Every definition I can find agrees with this. > **[Who is Considered a “Felon”? - May Law, LLP](https://maylawllp.com/who-is-considered-a-felon/)** > > If you or someone you know has been classified a felon, consult with a criminal defense attorney as soon as possible to weigh out any options you may have. Call now. > …a felon is an individual who has been both convicted and charged with a criminal offense… [https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-government-and-civics/x231f0f4241b58f49:citizens-us-gov-civics/x231f0f4241b58f49:untitled-lesson-433/a/felony-incarceration-and-citizenship](https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-government-and-civics/x231f0f4241b58f49:citizens-us-gov-civics/x231f0f4241b58f49:untitled-lesson-433/a/felony-incarceration-and-citizenship) > A **felon** is a person who has been convicted of a **felony** Multiple dictionaries have the term, “a person who has committed a felony” which is what is decided during a conviction. Also ask why we have the ubiquitous term “convicted felon” and not “sentenced felon”. Where did you get the idea that sentencing somehow makes someone legally a felon, and you aren’t until then? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9848 "2025-01-10T23:59:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t know why this misinformation keeps being spread. It was repeated on CNN this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9849 "2025-01-11T00:28:42Z")
Yeah, people who should know better say it a lot. It’s not true, as **Atamasama** points out ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9850 "2025-01-11T00:31:54Z")
One might ponder what he’s being sentenced for if he hasn’t been convicted yet. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9851 "2025-01-11T00:58:45Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It was repeated on CNN this morning. You might was well be saying, “I asked ChatGPT and it said…” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9852 "2025-01-11T01:29:55Z")
Is he no longer allowed to own a weapon, as norwegian papers wrote today? As a convicted felon? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9853 "2025-01-11T01:37:30Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > Is he no longer allowed to own a weapon, as norwegian papers wrote today? He is a Florida resident. It appears that he would now be prohibited from owning a gun (technically, from holding a firearms license) in Florida, unless the state of New York (where he was convicted of a felony) were to restore his right to own one in that state – see the second sentence below: > [@](#): > > If you have been convicted of a felony as described in Section [790.23](http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.23.html), Florida Statutes, and the felony conviction occurred within the State of Florida, your civil rights **and** firearm rights must be restored by the Florida Office of Executive Clemency. Felony convictions occurring in another state require restoration of civil **and** firearm rights by the state in which the conviction occurred. If you were convicted of a felony under federal law, you must have a presidential pardon or have been granted federal relief from disabilities. **If your civil rights and firearms rights have not been restored as described above, or if you cannot provide proof of restoration of civil rights and firearms rights, you are not eligible for a Concealed Weapon or Firearm License.** > **[Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services](https://www.fdacs.gov/Consumer-Resources/Consumer-Rights-and-Responsibilities/Concealed-Weapon-License/Disqualifying-Conditions/Felony-Conviction)** > > Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9854 "2025-01-11T01:45:21Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > He is a Florida resident. It appears that he would now be prohibited from owning a gun (technically, from holding a firearms license) in Florida, unless the state of New York (where he was convicted of a felony) were to restore his right to own one in that state – see the second sentence below: He’ll get more traction whinging about how his right to bear arms has been unjustly removed by the very unfair justice system. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9855 "2025-01-11T02:33:41Z")
If the witch was a good citizen, she’d do it for free. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9856 "2025-01-11T03:15:13Z")
Well it would need to be a small framed gun. Say a Lady Smith or .380. He shoots himself in the foot with everything he does. Not joking above. But DJT with a weapon would scare the shit out of the SS. Ummmm. No. Hard stop. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9857 "2025-01-11T03:21:22Z")
I am suddenly consumed with the desire to start a campaign on Twuth and Xitter saying that “Trump should prove those leftist commies in New York don’t control him by going to the gun range and shooting -all- the guns” in the desperate hope he pulls a Super-Cheney and shoots Vance, himself, and ideally Thomas who of course was there to _consult_ with him again. Hopefully with more lethality than Cheney. 😜 Seriously, FSM, it’s been a shitty few months, give us this one! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9858 "2025-01-11T03:28:15Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Ummmm. No. Hard stop. Yeah, but think of the schadenfreude of the molṑn labés that took no small amount of joy reminding us that ‘It’s a magazine, not a clip.’ having to suck it up and start referring to their _point four fives_ and their _nine emm emms_. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9859 "2025-01-11T06:18:20Z")
And I thought watching him pretend to drive a truck was funny. Any photographer brave enough to photograph Trump at a gun range automatically gets a Pulitzer. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9860 "2025-01-11T11:08:36Z")
> [@Loggins](#): > > Is he no longer allowed to own a weapon I mean, is he even able to handle a weapon? They are generally made for adult size hands. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/9861 "2025-01-11T11:15:22Z")
There are probably some Derringer models that would fit him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=492) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=494)