# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
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As far as I’m concerned, McConnell can join all the other ranks of the formerly mighty who, in the blink of an eye, sometimes literally, became nobody.

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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1022 "2023-07-27T21:23:25Z")

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Good News Everybody!  
[Trump says his attorneys had “productive meeting” with DOJ this morning.](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-2020-election-probe/index.html)

> In a post on the social platform Truth Social, Trump said his team explained “in detail that I did nothing wrong, was advised by many lawyers, and that an Indictment of me would only further destroy our Country. No indication of notice was given during the meeting.”

So it looks like this indictment watch is all for naught. Jack Smith doesn’t know anything about the law, so Trump’s lawyers very carefully explained to him that he did nothing wrong. Just a grave misunderstanding. Smith was greatly chagrined, and with tears in his eyes thanked Trump for his service.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1023 "2023-07-27T21:30:38Z")

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I suppose it is cut & paste, so Indictment was capitalized. I would have capitalized the whole word.  
But OK.  
What is an “indication of notice”? Is it legal term I ignore? Or does it just mean in a much un-legalese way they did not care? Like writing on a trench-coat: I really don’t care, do U?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1024 "2023-07-27T21:38:20Z")

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If you really meant it, you would have capitalized the entire moronic fake tweet!  
🤡

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1025 "2023-07-27T21:42:18Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> Good News Everybody!  
> [Trump says his attorneys had “productive meeting” with DOJ this morning.](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-2020-election-probe/index.html)

The only product that I’m interested in seeing out of Smith, Esquire’s office is a mighty long indictment of a certain bloviator.

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**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1026 "2023-07-27T23:13:31Z")

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Whee! More charges in the classified documents case!

> **[Trump Faces Major New Charges in Documents Case](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/27/us/politics/trump-documents-carlos-de-oliveira-charged.html?unlocked_article_code=c3uTj4DkEhPzpPAICNp3WTF8H-8wQq11qB5Vukw3IiwQNB76LN7jG4oLZcjy2j_WClyC85tziIiRUYmgakDfsgj2CxTVu9cct7FSmHfoZVXlaCJEQ5y1Z9ykmIFV5fJdfL6NRA9Ixnli3w3RrneuwK8jKUQzoeYWDTtLfCXkDzYOtJYGZIqQWyXoEaEDhbkkoBmSn8AA5DI_dH7kOje99-RDOMWQdl7T3A7HOEoI9k2_1YFzdZ0PCN21965VtQ1Zymd9w43eBpE_IrCFTUrCi_bQdzZSAIFsAPoBzA-JnfFFZKG_ez9Rez1vDlUz3a7tkSdjy87BJhlH0sPA0MfsARHOT3CqO1zqq7b9b9Qx0M2ckjDz9957MQ&smid=url-share)**
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> The office of the special counsel accused the former president of seeking to delete security camera footage at Mar-a-Lago. A maintenance worker, Carlos De Oliveria, was also named as a new defendant.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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The Witch Hunt just got Witch Huntier!

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
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DJT is about to get “indicated” again me thinks. D.C., Florida again, and Bedminster, NJ.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> The only product that I’m interested in seeing out of Smith, Esquire’s office is a mighty long indictment of a certain bloviator.

> [@romansperson](#):
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> Whee! More charges in the classified documents case!

No need to thank me. The credit goes, as always, to our dedicated civil servant, Mr. Smith. And, as always, Tan the Conman will, somehow, take credit anyway and his rubes will applaud him.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1030 "2023-07-28T00:34:02Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> No need to thank me. The credit goes, as always, to our dedicated civil servant, Mr. Smith. And, as always, Tan the Conman will, somehow, take credit anyway and his rubes will applaud him. -

“As I call him, the “Useless” Jack Smith (if that’s actually his name), was completely unable to find anything on me. I had to help him by continuously running my beautiful mouth.”

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1031 "2023-07-28T01:19:12Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> This seems a good place for this:
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> [Trump to face a ‘sprawling racketeering indictment’ in Georgia: report](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-georgia-racketeering-2662320017/?utm_source=123456&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=15240)
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> > According to Lowell’s report, “In the Trump investigation, the Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, has amassed enough evidence to pursue a racketeering indictment predicated on statutes related to influencing witnesses and computer trespass.”
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> > The report adds that computer trespass charge, “prosecutors would have to show that defendants used a computer or network without authority to interfere with a program or data, that would include the breach of voting machines in Coffee county, the two people said. The breach of voting machines involved a group of Trump operatives – paid by the then Trump lawyer Sidney Powell – accessing the voting machines at the county’s election office and copying sensitive voting system data.”
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> This goes way beyond his “perfect phone call”. 😲

Yes, it’s now “perfect racketeering”.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1032 "2023-07-28T01:29:04Z")

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The _Best_ racketeering. You’ve never seen better yuger racketeering than how I do it.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1033 "2023-07-28T03:11:07Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> The breach of voting machines involved a group of Trump operatives – paid by the then Trump lawyer Sidney Powell – accessing the voting machines

Big, strong, tough guy operatives, with tears in their eyes copying sensitive data. Doing it all for no reward; just to please him, salute him, hug him.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1034 "2023-07-28T03:59:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> “As I call him, the “Useless” Jack Smith (if that’s actually his name), was completely unable to find anything on me. I had to help him by continuously running my beautiful mouth.”

When this is all done and over, I’ll be thrilled if Jack Smith comes out and says,

> The jury rendered a perfect finding. The judge awarded Trump the best sentence him to prison, prison that nobody’s ever heard of before, one of our nation’s beautiful prisons.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yes, it’s now “perfect racketeering”.

Or, as I’m actually shocked Tan the Conman hasn’t “truthed” already, **perfecteering**.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
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> [@](#):
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> [Trump was] advised by many lawyers

…but he only listened to the ones who told him what he wanted to hear…

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Deleted. Wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> …but he only listened to the ones who told him what he wanted to hear…

Just like his followers. If ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, the Washington Post, the NYT, PBS, and all kinds of other solid and reputable sources find a fact that is adverse in interest to Trump, it is dismissed by his followers. Why? Because some blog tells them what they want to hear, which is that fact is wrong. Or misconstrued somehow, and what that fact really means is \_\_\_\_\_. Or that so-called fact doesn’t matter anyway, because Hunter’s laptop, Biden crime family, FBI and DOJ weaponization, Obama’s secretly running things behind the scenes because Biden is too senile to, and other assorted crapola.

The point is (heh) just the same as you see in the 1971 movie, _The Point_, as taught by the Rockman: “You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear.” No matter how many reputable mainstream media sources say one thing, if it’s not what Trumpists want to hear, they will dismiss a reputable source in favour of questionable ones that tell them what they want to hear.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1038 "2023-07-28T11:40:32Z")

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And the burning question remains, WHY do they want to hear conspiracy theories and utter dreck, rather than the truth? I don’t get that, and I never will. They will not allow any other information enter their brains.

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Fresh, hot new charges just announced against trump. Apparently for trump trying to have security footage deleted after Mar-a-Lago was subpoenaed. I’m not clear on the reason why trump wanted the security footage deleted-- was it part of the original coverup, to hide evidence of document mishandling, or a coverup of a coverup-- to hide evidence of attempts to move and hide the documents?

> **[Takeaways from the new charges against Trump, aide and Mar-a-Lago worker in...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/27/politics/takeaways-new-charges-trump-classified-documents/index.html)**
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> Special counsel Jack Smith expanded his classified documents case against former President Donald Trump, making significant new allegations that Trump and two of his employees attempted to delete Mar-a-Lago security footage sought by the grand jury...

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> And the burning question remains, WHY do they want to hear conspiracy theories and utter dreck, rather than the truth?

The human brain is pretty fucking flawed. The more helpless and/or angry you feel, the more vulnerable you are to people willing to tell you that they’re offering knowledge that the so-called experts don’t want you to have.

Think about otherwise intelligent and skeptical people who get sick and end up wiping their savings on bullshit pseudoscience treatments.

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