# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
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**Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/101 "2023-05-26T14:05:14Z")

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Desantis owes PAB for taking slimeball-ism to new lows. But he also has the disadvantage in that he is at his core, just a PAB-imitator.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/102 "2023-05-26T14:24:23Z")

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[A top Twitter engineer has quit the day after DeSantis’ announcement.](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65717731) Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/103 "2023-05-26T14:42:24Z")

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Never mind

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> [A top Twitter engineer has quit the day after DeSantis’ announcement.](https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65717731) Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

Self proclaimed mid-level manager with four year career at a company quits and for some reason does a press release. How is this relevant to anything?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/105 "2023-05-26T14:49:11Z")

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I’m having an issue editing the above post, so here is my edited version.

Let’s look at this way.

As you may know, some classified materials were found in a storage space at Joe Biden’s.c

Suppose that further investigation proved that Joe Biden had his employees move those materials into the storage space the day before the FBI was scheduled to search.

What inferences would you make in that situation? Would you think it made Joe look innocent? Would you put it down to cooperation? Or would you maybe think that Joe was trying to conceal the fact that he’d been using or even disseminating that info?

I always like to use the “what if Joe Biden” strategy with Trump apologists.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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Did he fall or was he pushed?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I always like to use the “what if Joe Biden” strategy with Trump apologists.

That’s quite the cooling breeze we’re getting from all the hand-waving away.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/108 "2023-05-26T16:02:31Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> What inferences would you make in that situation? Would you think it made Joe look innocent? Would you put it down to cooperation? Or would you maybe think that Joe was trying to conceal the fact that he’d been using or even disseminating that info?
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> I always like to use the “what if Joe Biden” strategy with Trump apologists.

I’d assume that Joe was assembling the documents, to be taken away. But, I’d also assume that that’s simply one possibility that it doesn’t really tell me much minus further information, and that there could be nefarious intent as well. And minus such other information, that the news isn’t worth publishing.

But the blandest explanation is usually the right one, even for evil doers.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/109 "2023-05-26T16:32:17Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Here’s [a Slate article about Trump’s lawyers backing away from him.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/donald-trump-lawyers-resign-parlatore-corcoran.html)

Maybe he’ll end up as a _pro se_ defendant. There’s not enough popcorn on earth…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> politically what’s the upside for the GOP?

It’s more an upside for certain members than for the party as a whole.

“Now, you die, and we all move up in rank!”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/111 "2023-05-26T16:42:31Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Suppose that further investigation proved that Joe Biden had his employees move those materials into the storage space the day before the FBI was scheduled to search.

I believe the canon response here is something like:

“But nobody’s proved anything about Trump. All this"evidence” you libs keep talking about is Soros Deep State fake news.

"The only reason we **arent** hearing anything about Biden is because he’s a criminal mastetmind running the Deep State Soros Globalists! And also he’s senile! "

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/112 "2023-05-26T16:50:07Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> "The only reason we **arent** hearing anything about Biden is because he’s a criminal mastetmind running the Deep State Soros Globalists! And also he’s senile! "

Dear Trumpists,  
That SNL skit about Reagan? That was satire.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/113 "2023-05-26T20:12:54Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> > [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > Here’s [a Slate article about Trump’s lawyers backing away from him.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/donald-trump-lawyers-resign-parlatore-corcoran.html)
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> Maybe he’ll end up as a _pro se_ defendant. There’s not enough popcorn on earth…

OMFG, that would be _sweet_. Although it might keep him out of the witness stand and free from any risk of perjury, which would be disappointing, frankly.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/114 "2023-05-26T20:50:45Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8a3mk9sp0oE/hqdefault.jpg ""Bananas" courtroom scene") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a3mk9sp0oE)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/115 "2023-05-26T20:54:54Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> “Now, you die, and we all move up in rank!”

Ah. So it’s kind of like the Royal Navy in peacetime during the 18th and 19th centuries.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> OMFG, that would be _sweet_. Although it might keep him out of the witness stand and free from any risk of perjury, which would be disappointing, frankly.

I would imagine he would find a way to assure conviction just asking the questions of witnesses.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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I suspect he _would_ have a certain litigational genius that way.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/117 "2023-05-26T21:31:47Z")

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And then appeal on the basis of incompetent counsel.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/118 "2023-05-26T22:05:22Z")

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A man who is his own lawyer something something.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
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> **[Prosecutors in Trump's criminal case say they have recording of Trump and a...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-recording-trump-witness-211552499.html)**
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> A document filed in former President Donald Trump's Manhattan criminal case indicates prosecutors have released to his attorneys a recording of Trump and an undisclosed witness.

> Prosecutors in former President Donald Trump’s Manhattan criminal case have released to his attorneys a recording of Trump and a witness, whose identity was not disclosed, according to a document the office made public Friday…
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> [Trump] has entered a [not guilty plea to 34 felony counts](https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-pleads-not-guilty-34-counts-indictment-arraignment-manhattan-court/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) of falsification of business records for alleged payments made as part of a [“hush money” scheme](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-indictment-investigation-timeline-manhattan-district-attorney/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17).
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> The document lists the dates of 34 instances between Feb. 14, 2017 and Dec. 5, 2017 when he allegedly falsified records…
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> The section also indicates prosecutors intend to disclose recordings of calls between witnesses and others.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/120 "2023-05-27T00:32:31Z")

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This is Michael Cohen’s chance for sweet revenge.

What, you thought he only recorded Trump just that one time?

> **[Trump says 'too bad' after Cohen audio recording released](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-cohen/trump-says-too-bad-after-cohen-audio-recording-released-idUSKBN1KF1KU)**
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> U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday expressed disbelief that his longtime personal lawyer Michael Cohen would have taped conversations with him, a day after an audio recording of a conversation between the two men was aired on U.S. television.

Somewhere, there’s a slimeball New York attorney turned felon turned informant laughing manically.

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