# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1181 "2023-08-07T01:51:08Z")
I hope the goats weren’t too traumatized. Adorable little Toggenburg in the first pic in your link! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1182 "2023-08-07T02:03:04Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > As long as it hurts people that care about the earth and other people, they are all for it. As long as it hurts the ‘others’ too. It’s like there are two people trapped on a life raft. The first guy is trying to do what he can to survive; collecting rainwater, catching fish, etc. The second guy hates the first guy so much, he just spends his time trying to sink the boat so that the first guy can drown. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1183 "2023-08-07T02:21:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dionysius has apparently sent an omen warning of his displeasure with Loser Donald. Just give me a sign. > **[The Man With Two Brains -- just give me a sign](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkcKQmr7kRc%2F)** > > "The Man With Two Brains" (1983) starring Steve Martin and Kathleen Turner.Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr (Steve Martin) has fallen in love with beautiful and kind (... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1184 "2023-08-07T02:34:19Z")
Remember this bit from _Mississippi Burning_? The white FBI agent from the North asked the Black sharecropper why said sharecropper’s home and farm were worth more than his next-door white neighbor’s. The Black sharecropper replied, “I don’t live next to a n~”. That’s pretty much what racism is all about: giving someone with exactly zero to be proud of a reason to be proud, proud of something completely out of their control. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1185 "2023-08-07T03:24:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dionysius has apparently sent an omen warning of his displeasure with Loser Donald. That’s my boy!!! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1186 "2023-08-07T03:26:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dionysius has apparently sent an omen Interesting. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1187 "2023-08-07T04:14:01Z")
> Sometimes wine, sometimes gin! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1188 "2023-08-07T14:37:05Z")
What were the goats doing in court? Grazing rights dispute? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1189 "2023-08-07T14:55:07Z")
Apparently the goats are part of Trump’s tax shenanigans. > **[Caught On Camera: Donald Trump's Motorcade Blocked By Herd Of Goats](https://www.oneindia.com/international/caught-on-camera-donald-trumps-motorcade-blocked-by-herd-of-goats-3602147.html)** > > After his court appearance, Donald Trump encountered an unexpected obstacle on his way back to his New Jersey golf club - a group of rogue goats blocked his motorcade. > In 2002, Trump purchased the estate, formerly known as Lamington Farm, and transformed it into a golf course and country club. > > [T]he estate is registered as a working farm due to the occasional presence of these goats … if it were classified as a golf club, the tax rate would have been approximately USD 199,000 higher per year. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1190 "2023-08-08T00:11:53Z")
I just had my own paranoid thought. What if Donald Trump protests and throws up a fuss, asks all of his people for money to help, asks them for campaign donations so he can win the election, throws fits in social media and on TV… And then loses everything. Loses the election. Loses his criminal cases. But, because he has no criminal record, he is given a pretty light sentence. No hard time, just a bit of time in minimum security, and some probation. He serves that time, then sits back and enjoys all the money people gave him, and has someone ghost write him a book where he claims that he is the biggest martyr of all time, Jesus Christ never had it so bad, and the fervent people on the right snatch it up and make it a best-seller, and he rakes in money for that as well. Did he really lose? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1191 "2023-08-08T00:18:34Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But, because he has no criminal record, **he is given a pretty light sentence**. No hard time, just a bit of time in minimum security, and some probation. You prediction falls apart right about here. With what he is getting charged with, and is being charged with, a “light sentence” would be for the rest of his life. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1192 "2023-08-08T00:29:50Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But, because he has no criminal record, he is given a pretty light sentence. No hard time, just a bit of time in minimum security, and some probation. Ah, but will he? In your scenario, he, and I quote, loses everything. He has multiple cases against him, and so depending on the order, he is likely to not be able to claim no criminal record. It’s one of the tiny bits of schadenfreude that you get to enjoy from the multiple indictments in different jurisdictions. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1193 "2023-08-08T00:30:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > With what he is getting charged with, and is being charged with, a “light sentence” would be for the rest of his life. I truly hope so. Hence why I said that my thinking was paranoid. Most of the experts I’ve read about that make predictions generally talk about the theoretical maximum, then say that in reality there is no chance he’ll get anywhere near that, but don’t talk about the minimum sentence. Hence why paranoia sets in. Here’s an example. > **[641 years behind bars? No, but Trump’s risk of prison is real.](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/02/trump-prison-sentence-risk-00109544)** > > Of the more than six dozen felonies that Trump is accused of, many often result in harsh sentences. I know this article was prior to the indictment for conspiracy to defraud the government, but it predicted probably 3 years. > **[Fact Check: Has Donald Trump been "threatened" with 400 year sentence?](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-indictment-400-year-sentence-claim-1806951)** > > Donald Trump claimed he was being threatened with centuries in prison over classified documents indictment. There is a newer one from 4 days ago: > **[No, Trump is not facing the death penalty on his latest federal charges, as...](https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-donald-trump-indictment-sentence-death-penalty-549518347955)** > > THE FACTS: As Trump pleaded not guilty on all four charges in federal court on Thursday, some on social media spread falsehoods about the maximum sentence he could receive if convicted. It quotes a Columbia law professor as saying: > Richman said it is “nearly impossible” right now to predict what sentence Trump could actually receive if convicted. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > Ah, but will he? In your scenario, he, and I quote, loses everything. He has multiple cases against him, and so depending on the order, he is likely to not be able to claim no criminal record. I wondered about that too. I don’t know if the sentencing guidelines allow you to consider a conviction that occurs after the case has already started. Maybe it does, I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1194 "2023-08-08T00:34:49Z")
I believe, if he is convicted on everything (Praise the FSM, may it be so) that it will work that way. After all, they were a series of crimes, and each has it’s own limits and limitations. Of course, the moment he is convicted, I suspect that some or even most of the crimes will be / would be some version of house arrest, but some of these felonies, especially in aggregate? We can hope for at least a token prison sentence. At which point, I’m sure the Trump lawyers will ignore the previous “Trump is the healthiest man in the world” to being too old and too sick to be subject to even the plushiest prison. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1195 "2023-08-08T00:35:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I know this article was prior to the indictment for conspiracy to defraud the government, but it predicted probably 3 years. I would be fucking _thrilled_ with 3 years. I don’t expect even that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1196 "2023-08-08T01:37:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > would be fucking _thrilled_ with 3 years. I’d be surprised if he could handle 3 days. He’d snap the minute the guard refused his demand for a Diet Coke. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1197 "2023-08-08T01:44:31Z")
I can just imagine that back and forth. Something like this: Trump: Guard! Guard! Bring me a Diet Coke! Guard: Whaddaya think I am, some kind of room service waiter? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1198 "2023-08-08T01:51:15Z")
“And no, I won’t bring you any more classified documents.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1199 "2023-08-08T02:17:50Z")
In what I’m sure is a coincidence, 32 sunken cars have been found in a lake 5 minutes away from Trump’s Miami resort. > **[Volunteer divers find 32 submerged cars in Doral lake, possibly linked to...](https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/volunteer-divers-find-32-submerged-cars-in-doral-lake-possibly-linked-to-missing-persons-cold-cases/)** > > DORAL, FLA. (WSVN) - A diving team that took to the water in Doral has uncovered not just one underwater mystery, but nearly three dozen.UnderwaterRead More Imagine the conniption the Fox News crowd would have if 32 missing cars turned up in a lake near Biden’s house. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1200 "2023-08-08T03:13:44Z")
I’m not sure what Miami resort you are referring to. Mar A Lago is in Palm Beach, which isn’t 5 minutes away even by helicopter. A little poking around on Google Maps shows where they found the cars is just across the street from a Lincoln dealership and a block away from a Chevrolet AutoNation. Perhaps insurance fraud? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=61)