# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1221 "2023-08-09T20:51:27Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Anyone know the kernel of truth he’s surrounding with all this shit? Appears to be based on some blathering from Barry Loudermilk (R - GA): [https://news.yahoo.com/j6-committee-failed-preserve-records-170857138.html](https://news.yahoo.com/j6-committee-failed-preserve-records-170857138.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1222 "2023-08-09T22:20:31Z")
Did he look in the bathroom? ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1223 "2023-08-10T03:49:25Z")
One down > **[Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66457089)** > > A man is shot dead in Utah after posting threats online, hours before Joe Biden visits the state. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1224 "2023-08-10T04:08:20Z")
I was surprised we didn’t have a thread for that news. Trump has been complaining about weaponization of the Justice Department but forgetting that they have _actual weapons_. And sometimes, when someone exercises their First/Second Amendment rights they get shot by the cops. Sometimes, very rarely but still once in a while, it’s an old white guy on the receiving end. Now I am certainly not wishing such a fate upon anyone but I am compelled to note that this example clearly shows that any given amount of “fuck around” can _easily_ be met by an equal or greater amount of “find out”. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1225 "2023-08-10T09:31:24Z")
Twoofing one’s threats must certainly make it easier for law enforcement to find them. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1226 "2023-08-10T12:52:00Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > One down > [Man who threatened Biden shot dead in FBI raid in Utah](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66457089) Wow, the guy wasn’t even subtle about it. > “I hear Biden is coming to Utah. Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle.” > “Perhaps Utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out Biden the Marxist.” FIFO indeed. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1227 "2023-08-10T14:12:07Z")
I thought of putting this in the How Has Trump Pissed You Off thread, but he’s pissing off a bunch of Republicans, not me. NY Times (gift link): [Trump Says He Won’t Sign Loyalty Pledge Required for G.O.P. Debate](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/politics/trump-gop-debate-loyalty-pledge.html?unlocked_article_code=_KPTPgO8ko82HiA_79Ti_RV_YuhbWL18joxkFwnGQc3I20ldnCAQ_MlwlI2brAWRZ3FYV8x6pDWwxgw3ooKtSCkqKfyvoA4x49oT8x-3B7eFYiEoPga-3N9tnyRVY7_uy7XhYcSCkgzWzmnJMa0moQr2ph__XRGTYSVjyOBIIaYJ5dwZXJNXTNH7e0Jjwa2Jrj_nPxl0fwEcyQqeUrVAlHcSCUb6v25W9FhI-5dJaap2Bw_XZVhY94eukCc8aKrCScVXgu00bPayX-qNJk-ZG1GkIiCOPYaUz-2EGqsa8SdZLd3HFVI5AmeKkv4H_VPH03k4RCcUQRHokFQyY-Ge9Wa81AV2WNGMNzPekls&smid=url-share) > “I wouldn’t sign the pledge,” [he said in an interview](https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/donald-trump-debate-rnc/2023/08/09/id/1130241/) with the conservative outlet Newsmax. “Why would I sign a pledge? There are people on there that I wouldn’t have.” > > The decision would seem to rule out the possibility of him being at the debate on Aug. 23, yet he also said that he would announce next week whether he planned to take part. > > Asked for comment on Thursday, the Republican National Committee, which [sets the rules](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/03/us/politics/-2023-07-02-us-politics-republicans-pledge-nominee-trump.html), referred to past interviews in which its chairwoman, Ronna McDaniel, has defended the pledge and said the committee will hold everyone to it. > > “The rules aren’t changing,” she [said on CNN last month](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2023/07/14/ronna-mcdaniel-rnc-debate-thresholds-wtcw-vpx.cnn). “We’ve been very vocal with them.” Strategically, this is a fairly sound position for anyone in his position to take, but since it’s Trump, he just being a fucking asshole. As usual. So this is schadenfreude not for Trump or his supporters, but for all the other Republicans who have to deal with having let him into their party in the first place. Boo hoo, sucks to be you. The article goes on: > Mr. Trump’s vacillation over the pledge is not new; he objected to signing the same loyalty pledge during his first campaign eight years ago. He [ultimately did](https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/03/donald-trump-signs-loyalty-pledge-to-republican-party/), but then [took it back](https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/29/donald-trump-says-he-no-longer-vows-to-support-the-republican-nominee/). > > That history underscores that the pledge is, in practice, unenforceable. Party leaders can refuse to let a candidate debate for not signing, but they can’t force someone who does sign to actually support another nominee next year. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1228 "2023-08-10T14:57:25Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > So this is schadenfreude not for Trump or his supporters, but for all the other Republicans who have to deal with having let him into their party in the first place. Boo hoo, sucks to be you. Right. Trump doesn’t even want to debate. So, this is perfect for him. He can get a lot of press, trash his opponents, and stay off the stage where people will attack him (gently). ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1229 "2023-08-10T15:03:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Right. Trump doesn’t even want to debate. But I wouldn’t put it past him to show up anyways, get refused entry, and then post about how “the Failing GOP RINO ‘leadership’, I call it ‘leadership’ but it’s more like ‘leader_shit_’”, kept him off the stage because they were afraid of him and are on THE BIDEN CRIME FAMILIES payroll to run a never-Trump loser who will help the Democrat PARTY steal the election, but You can Help Trump by sending all future campaign donations to ELECT\* TRUMP YEEHAW \*and pay his legal bills LLC, that’ll show them! ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1230 "2023-08-10T15:03:48Z")
How long before he becomes a martyr, like Ashli Babbitt? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1231 "2023-08-10T15:05:39Z")
Getting shot by the police would require him to have enough personal courage to actually stand up to the police, so never. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1232 "2023-08-10T15:19:04Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > How long before he becomes a martyr, like Ashli Babbitt? I’m not willing to look, but I’m sure there’s already plenty of social chatter about how Robertson was executed for exercising his First Amendment rights. _“In Biden’s America, Free Speech is a Capital Offense!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1233 "2023-08-10T15:28:53Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > “In Biden’s America, Free Speech is a Capital Offense!” Let’s go all (psuedo)Biblical. “Let he who is without Presidential Death Threats cast the first bullet!” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1234 "2023-08-10T18:07:13Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > How long before he becomes a martyr, like Ashli Babbitt? I thought he had already reached Full Martyr Mode awhile ago. Full title from article linked below: > **Trump is met with silence from GOP audience after complaining about being the most ‘persecuted’ person in American history** > **[Trump is met with silence from GOP audience after complaining about being the...](https://www.businessinsider.com/video-trump-says-the-most-persecuted-person-american-history-2022-7)** > > "I didn't have time to think about getting persecuted because I was fighting persecution," he said at Turning Point USA in Florida on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1235 "2023-08-10T18:09:28Z")
Trump is right, or may soon be right. The issue is that he mispronounced the word “prosecuted”. ---
**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1236 "2023-08-10T18:17:28Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Getting shot by the police would require him to have enough personal courage to actually stand up to the police, so never. > [@solost](#): > > I thought he had already reached Full Martyr Mode awhile ago. > > Full title from article linked below: > > > **Trump is met with silence from GOP audience after complaining about being the most ‘persecuted’ person in American history** “He” in my post refers to Craig Robertson, the man Akaj quoted who was shot by the FBI. I replied to his post. I will be more careful with my antecedents in the future ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1237 "2023-08-10T18:23:35Z")
> [@gnarator](#): > > “He” in my post refers to Craig Robertson, the man Akaj quoted who was shot by the FBI. I replied to his post. > > I will be more careful with my antecedents in the future Ah, my mistake, I hadn’t read through that particular bit of thread chain closely enough. Doesn’t make my reply in itself any less correct, though 😏 ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1238 "2023-08-10T18:30:26Z")
> [@link in solost's post](#): > > “I didn’t have time to think about getting persecuted because I was fighting persecution,” Sure talked about it a lot for a guy who wasn’t thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1239 "2023-08-10T20:01:28Z")
> [@](#): > > The decision would seem to rule out the possibility of him being at the debate on Aug. 23 If the debate organizers had a spine, they’d announce that either Trump or a lifesize Trump Baby Balloon will be on stage, his choice. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1240 "2023-08-10T20:01:47Z")
Several members of the Patriot Front in Idaho were outed by a guy who infiltrated their group. As a result, they lost their jobs and were shunned by their families. They are suing the dude. The Idaho Statesman took exception to the lawsuit. > “It’s a warped view of freedom of expression when Patriot Front members attempt to completely conceal their ownership of said expression,” the editors wrote before adding, “Hiding behind anonymity has become an all-too-common feature of white nationalist and extremist trolls who lurk in the shadows of social media, hiding behind bogus accounts and fake avatars, spewing hate, sowing division, and threatening and intimidating others. It’s that anonymity that allows their putrescent views to grow and spread like a flesh-eating bacteria — except in this case, it’s more like a brain-eating disease.” > **[Patriot Front members buried over lawsuit complaint they lost their jobs...](https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/patriot-front-lawsuit/)** > > The editors of the Idaho Statesman have very little sympathy for several members of the Patriot Front who are suing because someone infiltrated their ranks and then exposed their names, leading them to losing their jobs and being shunned by their... Good for the Statesman editors. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=63)