# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1601 "2023-08-30T14:10:32Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Could his lawyers _be_ any more tone-deaf? > “It was stunningly stupid. Because one, the comparison is ridiculous. But second, if you want to alienate a judge in the case, this was exactly what to do. A female judge, a Black judge, and to talk about that case and compare it to Trump’s case was absurd,” retired California Superior Court Judge LaDoris Hazzard Cordell told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on CNN’s “The Source” Monday night. Lawyers: The Judge in this case was biased against the defendant! Appeals Court: How do you know she was biased? Lawyers: Because we deliberately alienated her! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1602 "2023-08-30T14:26:03Z")
Sadly, I can see Team Trump trying this on appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1603 "2023-08-30T14:28:53Z")
“I have a cunning plan, M’Lord!” ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1604 "2023-08-30T14:44:55Z")
It’s just another page in the GOP “We’re the real victims here!” playbook. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1605 "2023-08-30T14:53:29Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > “I have a cunning plan, M’Lord!” ‘Am I jumping the gun, Baldrick, or are the words “I have a cunning plan” marching with ill-deserved confidence in the direction of this conversation?’ ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1606 "2023-08-30T15:48:49Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Sadly, I can see Team Trump trying this on appeal. I think it’s obvious that this is his strategy. He knows that if he leaves the case to the facts, he’s cooked. But, if he can get the Judge’s goat, he might get her to make a blunder that would give him grounds for an appeal. Or, he might make her act annoyed with him in front of the jury. Or, he might make big enough headlines to taint the jury pool. Or, any of other possible results. To him, there is no down-side and plenty of up-side. Of course, to most people, it is seen as being petty, obnoxious, and childish. To his base, though, these are virtues, as it makes them feel better about themselves. And, if he can get a reaction, any reaction, from “the libs” it’s double-plus good. It looks as if this Judge is wise to his foolishness. I hope she just meets his attacks with sterner orders and restricts his legal team’s ability to act in this way, while granting leniency other, minor, inconsequential issues. I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall when Trump’s lawyers were discussing the [response to the Court (PDF of Response 8-17-23)](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.30.0.pdf) which included the reference to the Scottsboro case. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1607 "2023-08-30T18:45:35Z")
Heh, Rudy was so bad about stalling discovery in his defamation case against two Georgia poll workers that he earned a default judgement against him. Way to lawyer there, buddy. > **[Rudy Giuliani is liable for defaming 2 Georgia election workers, a judge says](https://www.npr.org/2023/08/30/1196802338/rudy-giuliani-defamation-georgia-election-workers)** > > Judge Beryl Howell's decision means that a trial will commence in this case to decide how much Rudy Giuliani must pay Ruby Freeman and Wandrea "Shaye" Moss. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1608 "2023-08-30T19:17:25Z")
Good. The Ruby Freeman / Shay Moss thing is one that pissed me off the most about this whole mess. They should have parades in their honor and monument built to fete them. Giuliani should be forced to leave a phone message to them every day apologizing without reservation and humbly requesting their forgiveness. Then someone should walk up to him and kick him right square in the balls, that son of a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1609 "2023-08-30T20:59:07Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Then someone should walk up to him and kick him right square in the balls, that son of a bitch. So you take a deterrent, rather than rehabilitative approach to the justice system? Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1610 "2023-08-30T22:18:06Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > monument built to fete them. I read that as “fellate” and had a horrible image of a statue of Rudy. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1611 "2023-08-30T22:40:52Z")
oh no … not again!!! (McConnell falling into coma again - different event) [https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/165m5v4/to\_give\_a\_speech/](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/165m5v4/to_give_a_speech/) im not 'merican - so I don’t carry the same emotional luggage as some of you … but there were moment’s where I really felt sorry for him … kinda … _granny, time to go home for us now_… ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1612 "2023-08-30T23:21:36Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Giuliani should be forced to leave a phone message to them every day apologizing without reservation and humbly requesting their forgiveness. Isn’t that punishing the victims by making them listen to Giuliani? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1613 "2023-08-30T23:25:56Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > oh no … not again!!! > > (McConnell falling into coma again - different event) Just looked at it and I’m wondering if he is having a series of mild strokes (NOT a Doctor, but from what I’ve seen in my life, it seems plausible). And yeah, he needs to retire right now. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1614 "2023-08-30T23:26:52Z")
McConnell has his own thread in Politics and Elections, where this is being discussed. Many people there are expressing some level of concern and sympathy as well. There is the expected amount of vitriol and animosity too, of course. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1615 "2023-08-30T23:30:09Z")
nm, nm, nm ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1616 "2023-08-30T23:46:43Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > McConnell has his own thread in Politics and Elections, where this is being discussed. Many people there are expressing some level of concern and sympathy as well. There is the expected amount of vitriol and animosity too, of course. yep, the one does not necesarily exclude the other … old fucker looked like suffering from anal leakage > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > And yeah, he needs to retire right now. well, maybe not exactly NOW, but ideally during august 2023 ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1617 "2023-08-31T00:09:51Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > well, maybe not exactly NOW, but ideally during august 2023 As Robot\_Arm mentioned above. “a deterrent, rather than rehabilitative approach” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1618 "2023-08-31T00:48:58Z")
That Daily Kos article also taught me a new word! “Copium”, as in “to abuse --”, “to get high on —”, etc., apparently means a comforting false narrative that one seeks out in order to avoid facing a discomforting reality. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1619 "2023-08-31T02:35:04Z")
oops! ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1620 "2023-08-31T02:38:32Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > I’m wondering if he is having a series of mild strokes Probably not so much strokes as recurrent [TIA](https://www.stroke.org/en/about-stroke/types-of-stroke/tia-transient-ischemic-attack#:~:text=A%20transient%20ischemic%20attack%2C%20or,possible%20full%2Dblown%20stroke%20ahead.)s. I am more suspicious that he’s having episodic short seizures (maybe what’s called ‘[absence seizures](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/epilepsy/absence-seizures)’), although they are not very common in older folks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=82)