# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 19, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250 "2023-05-19T03:20:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1801 "2023-09-09T23:08:22Z")
Did she have her coat on? [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUJ5Qp3MzdAkAqNgKCVgRSh9kacLrI_s9RkAu7jgXUCQ&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUJ5Qp3MzdAkAqNgKCVgRSh9kacLrI_s9RkAu7jgXUCQ&s) ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1802 "2023-09-09T23:16:12Z")
A good week: [![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/087f197f497f726cafdbeb41d3e1f7ab) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/087f197f497f726cafdbeb41d3e1f7ab) ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1803 "2023-09-10T02:22:29Z")
It may be more profitable for Melania to stay married and living apart in luxury in New York, on his dime, while extracting as much moolah to salt away as possible, rather than go through all the hassle and expense of fighting out a divorce settlement. Plus I’m sure there’s a prenuptial agreement that’s likely to limit how much she’d get in a split. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1804 "2023-09-10T02:25:31Z")
Yes, although ISTR she renegotiated her prenup between Election Day and his inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1805 "2023-09-10T02:31:39Z")
True dat – but perhaps it made it more profitable for her to stay married than to go ahead with a divorce, since that would be better for Trump’s image. After all, there she was, suddenly thrust into a First Lady role she clearly didn’t want, wrenched away from her friends and lifestyle in New York and having to play political wife rather than just generic arm candy for a geriatric blowhard. If I were her I’d have made it pay off big to stay in the marriage. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1806 "2023-09-10T05:47:57Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > If I were her I’d have made it pay off big to stay in the marriage. Given current events, it’s worth _a lot_ to Trump that the marriage continue, because that’s one fewer person who can testify against him. They break up, she gets subpoenaed. She probably has some interest in staying in the marriage also, to avoid all this hassle. And one may also wonder whether she has inside knowledge of the various schemes that puts her at risk of being pulled into conspiracy charges and gives her a Fifth Amendment claim to avoid testimony. Even so, his interest in keeping her off the stand clearly dwarfs hers. I hope she made that clear and got the requisite payoff. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1807 "2023-09-10T06:09:47Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Even so, his interest in keeping her off the stand clearly dwarfs hers. I hope she made that clear and got the requisite payoff. I hope for Barron’s sake she’s getting her consideration in cash and tangible assets solely in her name. Betting on shares of the family business, future inheritance, or position seem fraught with legal troubles internal to the family and external (so many lawsuits). Again, I only have sympathy for Barron at this point, because he didn’t chose to be born into the family, and may or may not be as corrupt as the others as time goes by. I have no sympathy for Melania, she is an adult, and knows exactly what she wanted and was willing to do to get it. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1808 "2023-09-10T06:29:32Z")
Oh sure, I expressed the hope that she got paid not for the sake of her security and comfort but solely because I enjoy the thought of anyone, even her, getting one over on the miserable tight-fisted bastard she’s married to, and extracting blood from that notoriously ungenerous stone. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1809 "2023-09-10T16:55:13Z")
No problem or disagreement, I was just amplifying that I hope when they re-upped as it were, she locked it away in a format of real assets, rather than the more typical (as NY cases are proving) access or shares of assets whose value comes from a “gut feeling”. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1810 "2023-09-10T17:36:22Z")
This is super minor, but still enjoyable. Trump likes to come to Arizona and rile people up. As usual, he doesn’t like to pay for the venue. His last venue is going broke. # Troubled Mesa sports facility Legacy Park headed for auction ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1811 "2023-09-10T18:27:58Z")
Great, so now Trump can pick up another property cheap, inflate the value, and use it as collateral for something else. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1812 "2023-09-10T23:30:12Z")
A complete break down of just how screwed Rudy is. MeidasTouch (10:00) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lngXPf20Is0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lngXPf20Is0) ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1813 "2023-09-11T00:03:16Z")
Rudy Giuliani is getting older, and he may never have quite come to terms with some aspects of modern life and how computers and cell phones work. I wonder how much of Rudy’s discovery woes are willful, and how much are that he just doesn’t understand how this stuff works? In other words, crook or moron? The eternal question. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1814 "2023-09-11T00:15:20Z")
Over-rated as mayor, lived on “911”, aided and abetted a smear campaigns and insurrection against the legitimate government of the United States. The smear and government attacks have been going on since at least 2015. He didn’t fall down and bump his head. He acted repeatedly, willfully and with knowledge of his actions. Rot in jail. I actually don’t expect him to live to see the cell. But I hope it’s Epstein’s. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1815 "2023-09-11T00:47:32Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > I wonder how much of Rudy’s discovery woes are willful, and how much are that he just doesn’t understand how this stuff works? More likely this… “Giuliani’s lawyers maintained this his searches were adequate and argued that it would cost more than $320,000 for him to access the database containing messages from before the seizure of his devices.” [https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/giuliani-sanctioned-failing-produce-records-defamation-case-2023-06-23/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/giuliani-sanctioned-failing-produce-records-defamation-case-2023-06-23/) ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1816 "2023-09-11T00:50:56Z")
The thing is that that is absolutely ridiculous. There is no way it costs 300K to run a keyword search on a database. So the question is, has someone convinced Rudy that it does cost that, and he’s to stupid to understand he’s being bullshitted? Or is he trying to bullshit the court? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1817 "2023-09-11T01:03:04Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Over-rated as mayor, lived on “911”, aided and abetted a smear campaigns and insurrection against the legitimate government of the United States. And as I learned by watching ‘Painkiller’ on Netflix, Rudy was part of the legal defense team for Purdue Pharma which negotiated a sweet plea deal which allowed them to avoid jail time and just pay a hefty fine. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1818 "2023-09-11T01:31:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > From Randy Newman’s “Short People”: > > > They got little hands > > And little eyes > > And they walk around > > Tellin’ great big lies > > They got little noses > > And tiny little teeth > > They wear platform shoes > > On their nasty little feet > > Trump isn’t short but hmm. It’s a funny thing you should bring this up but I’ve thought for a while someone could put together a musical review of sorts about Trump just using Randy Newman songs. From **Lonely at the Top** _I’ve been around the world_ _Had my pick of any girl_ _You’d think I’d be happy_ _But I’m not_ _Ev’rybody knows my name_ _But it’s just a crazy game_ _Oh, it’s lonely at the top_ _Listen to the band, they’re playing just for me_ _Listen to the people paying just for me_ _All the applause-all the parades_ _And all the money I have made_ _Oh, it’s lonely at the top_ _Listen all you fools out there_ _Go on and love me-I don’t care_ _Oh, it’s lonely at the top_ _Oh, it’s lonely at the top_ And from **Political Science** _No one likes us_ _I don’t know why_ _We may not be perfect_ _But heaven knows we try_ _But all around_ _Even our old friends put us down_ _Let’s drop the big one_ _And see what happens_ _We give them money_ _But are they grateful_ _No, they’re spiteful_ _And they’re hateful_ _They don’t respect us_ _So let’s surprise them_ _We’ll drop the big one_ _And pulverize them_ And there’s also a solo tune for Mike Pence about his experience at his first DC social event: **Mama Told Me Not To Come** _Will you have whiskey with your water_ _Or sugar with your tea?_ _What are these crazy questions_ _That they’re asking of me?_ _This is the wildest party there ever could be_ _Oh, don’t turn on the light 'cause I don’t want to see_ _Mama told me not to come_ _Mama told me not to come_ _Mama said, “That ain’t no way to have fun”_ _Open up the window, let some air into this room_ _I think I’m almost choking on the smell of stale perfume_ _And that cigarette you’re smoking 'bout to scare me half to death_ _Open up the window, let me catch my breath_ I could actually go on with other Newman songs that would work but I don’t want to over do quoting of lyrics or copywritten material. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1819 "2023-09-11T01:36:17Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > he’s to stupid to understand he’s being bullshitted? I have unconfirmed reports that he did question it at one point saying “It used to be only 25 cents/gallon” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/1820 "2023-09-11T12:21:58Z")
Here’s a fun 007 gag relating to IQ45. > **[Bond Moron... - Funny](https://9gag.com/gag/aExZ6LN)** > > 64 points • 11 comments [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250.md?page=92)