# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2281 "2025-12-15T21:31:07Z")

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If he knows he’s spouting bullshit, that makes him worse IMHO. It doesn’t matter one single bit that he knows he’s lying just makes it worse. It is NOT an excuse. It makes it WORSE.

“I’m lying to everyone, and I don’t care”.

He’s lying, and he knows it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2282 "2025-12-15T21:33:04Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> If he knows he’s spouting bullshit, that makes him worse IMHO. It doesn’t matter one single bit that he knows he’s lying just makes it worse. It is NOT an excuse. It makes it WORSE.

Then it does matter a lot in showing that he’s an even worse person than he appears to be. I doubt you’ll find much opposition to that idea. Someone like MTG, as demented as she is, I think she really believes the crazy she has stood for. Not that I give her much credit, but at least she’s sincere. I do think opportunists like Carlson or JD Vance are worse.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2283 "2025-12-15T21:41:28Z")

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We are talking past one/another.

MTG is just darn right crazy. Carlson and JD have some form of brain so they are more dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2284 "2025-12-16T02:26:09Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Thanks to documentation made public after the discovery phase of one or more lawsuits, we’ve seen messages where he has expressed opinions about Trump that are the complete opposite of what he has shown in public. He knows he is saying things that aren’t true.

Opposite World Colbert Report?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2285 "2025-12-16T02:34:33Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Opposite World Colbert Report?

Kind of, except he _really_ doesn’t want anyone to know he’s just pretending.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2286 "2025-12-16T03:01:06Z")

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Like JD “Trump is America’s Hitler” Vance?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2287 "2025-12-16T03:18:01Z")

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That’s **exactly** why I called Vance out a few posts ago.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2288 "2025-12-16T11:29:56Z")

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> [@romansperson](#):
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> Welp, the MAGAts are attacking him currently because he just purchased a house in Qatar, calling him a tool of Qatar. They’re certainly right about the tool part.

Wait, so dealing with Qatar is _bad_ now?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2289 "2025-12-16T12:06:28Z")

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It’s Tuesday. Surprised Demento Donny and his cabinet of horrors haven’t published (on Signal) a schedule of hatred. The could sell calendars to the cult.

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2290 "2025-12-16T12:59:47Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Some of those rare coins that were minted with errors can be worth thousands of dollars today. I

A trump dollar would be minted with two errors, one on each ass…er…face. So would it be worth half as much?

Dan

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2291 "2025-12-16T23:26:06Z")

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Social media is abuzz today over an article In Vanity Fair. Apparently Trump’s Chief of Staff just spent months spilling the tea with a reporter, and it somehow made it into print. She didn’t hold back.

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> Trump, she told me, “has an alcoholic’s personality.” Vance’s conversion from Never Trumper to MAGA acolyte, she said, has been “sort of political.” The vice president, she added, has been “a conspiracy theorist for a decade.” Russell Vought, architect of the notorious Project 2025 and head of the Office of Management and Budget, is “a right-wing absolute zealot.” When I asked her what she thought of Musk reposting a tweet about public sector workers killing millions under Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, she replied: “I think that’s when he’s microdosing.” (She says she doesn’t have first-hand knowledge.)

Now, she claims it was a hit piece. I can’t help but wonder if it isn’t just her exit interview.

> **[Susie Wiles Talks About The First Year of Trump’s Second Term (Part 1 of 2)](https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-susie-wiles-interview-exclusive-part-1?srsltid=AfmBOoqLfnOPHVFl6wvzwH0RLkCbv0E-y-LScTnCPbXvoaDaop8xZdO0)**
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> In the first half of ‘Vanity Fair’’s interview with Susie Wiles, the chief of staff discusses Elon Musk’s DOGE disaster, the FBI’s “incredible job” investigating January 6, and how Trump once berated her.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2292 "2025-12-17T00:20:21Z")

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It seems that Erika Kirk’s (wife of slain right-wing podcaster, debater, and MAGA “martyr” Charlie Kirk) big interview/town hall wasn’t a huge hit. Oh well, she can always be named ambassador to Someplace.

> **[Bari Weiss’ much-hyped CBS News town hall with Erika Kirk was a massive...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bari-weiss-erika-kirk-cbs-news-ratings-b2885768.html)**
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> According to Nielsen, the Saturday night town hall saw a 41 percent decline in in the key 25-54 advertising demographic compared to the network’s standard programming in that time slot year to date.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2293 "2025-12-17T13:57:52Z")

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Erika who?

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2294 "2025-12-17T14:45:31Z")

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You know… [Erika](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EfrCnLl_nck&list=RDEfrCnLl_nck&start_radio=1&pp=ygUKRXJpa2Egc29uZ6AHAQ%253D%253D)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2295 "2025-12-17T16:38:25Z")

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In the morning she is AMErika.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2296 "2025-12-17T16:41:00Z")

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Worst. Pun. Ever. (I laughed 😂)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2297 "2025-12-17T16:48:56Z")

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What do you call a troglodytes wife?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2298 "2025-12-17T20:00:18Z")

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A woman married to a Republican.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2299 "2025-12-17T22:20:33Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> What do you call a troglodytes wife?

“Mrs. Trump”?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2300 "2025-12-17T22:50:56Z")

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Bongino is likely out. I’d celebrate more, but he’ll likely go make more money at Sirius XM or CBS News.

[Dan Bongino thanks Trump, says he’s leaving FBI in January](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/12/17/dan-bongino-donald-trump-fbi/87816557007/)

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