# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 140
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2781 "2026-02-02T07:17:40Z")
I’m glad I’m old now and won’t really be around or aware of the shitshow that follows Trumpism. I feel so bad for Americans, and bad for the rest of the world…just fuck. Parody indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2026, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2782 "2026-02-02T09:56:55Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > It’s from a review of Melania by Sophie Gilbert from The Atlantic Right you are! Glad you liked it too, and remembered the origin. Ann Telnaes can draw, that’s why she needs your support on **[Substack](https://anntelnaes.substack.com/p/the-melania-movie?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e19a2fb-c1fd-488f-a7f3-4317908c1bd9_1800x1350.jpeg&open=false)**, she no longer has her job at the _Washington Post_ (see the small one on the lower left, he did not like being **[drawn like he is](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/Ann_Telnaes_Trump_cartoon.jpg)**): [![](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HK-C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e19a2fb-c1fd-488f-a7f3-4317908c1bd9_1800x1350.jpeg) ](https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HK-C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e19a2fb-c1fd-488f-a7f3-4317908c1bd9_1800x1350.jpeg) BTW: Do you know the names of the two ICE agents that shot Alex Pretti? Jesús Ochoa and Raymundo Gutiérrez. I feel some dissonance in The Farce. I wonder whether their documents are _in Ordnung_. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2783 "2026-02-03T04:40:50Z")
I believe they are actually agents of US Customs and Border Protection, not ICE: [Killing of Alex Pretti - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2784 "2026-02-03T04:43:55Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > agents of US Customs and Border Protection, Interestingly, I just read this in the Atlantic Magazine today: > “The crime rate of CBP agents and offices was higher PER CAPITA than the crime rate of undocumented immigrants in the United States,” Graff writes.” Statistically speaking, “worst of the worst” seems to describe CBP and the Border Patrol as law-enforcement agencies better than it does the [people they’re rounding up](https://www.cato.org/blog/5-ice-detainees-have-violent-convictions-73-no-convictions). ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2785 "2026-02-03T04:47:11Z")
Well, with agents named Jesús Ochoa and Raymundo Gutiérrez we really can not expect any better. /bitter, hopeless, sarcasm ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2786 "2026-02-03T14:00:05Z")
How close is Minneapolis to the border or the lakeshore? CBP does not have jurisdiction greater than 100 miles from either. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2787 "2026-02-03T14:15:18Z")
About 150 miles, give or take, to Duluth. But these seem to be ICE agents, not CBP, so the 100 mile ‘reasonable’ limit would not apply. It’s possible or likely the Wiki is incorrect about the particular agency involved. But also, the agencies involved are rather incestuous and don’t act especially professional, so who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2788 "2026-02-03T14:38:18Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > But also, the agencies involved are rather incestuous and don’t act especially professional, so who knows? And they’ve been re-assigning lots of agents from other departments to work ICE deportations, so they probably have authority derived from that assignment. ---
**Author:** ![mplo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mplo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mplo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2789 "2026-02-03T14:41:17Z")
Donald Trump is an overgrown combination of a school yard bully and a spoiled brat. That’s been a known fact for ages. It’s disgusting that he’s being allowed to do his dirty work. Unfortunately, however, if and when one looks at United States history, both earlier and more recently, Donald Trump’s ascension into the Oval Office was coming. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2790 "2026-02-03T15:22:07Z")
if there is any bright spot in this ice crap (other than the brave resistance) is that when it’s finally dealt with the CBP agents will be cleaned out, too. DO BETTER USA. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2791 "2026-02-03T15:28:56Z")
> [@mplo](#): > > Unfortunately, however, if and when one looks at United States history, both earlier and more recently, Donald Trump’s ascension into the Oval Office was coming. > “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” ― H.L. Mencken, 1920. So yeah, he was right. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2792 "2026-02-03T15:40:47Z")
> “Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” ― H.L. Mencken, 1919. So yeah, he was even righterer. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2793 "2026-02-03T19:28:03Z")
> [@Maus\_Magill](#): > > CBP does not have jurisdiction greater than 100 miles from either. Not true, I’ll repeat the info I posted earlier on this board to refute this commonly-repeated misinformation. > [@Potential ICE surge in Springfield, OH](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/potential-ice-surge-in-springfield-oh/1027206/7): > > Their actions are limited outside of 100 miles from a border (including coastlines), and they also operate with full jurisdiction at 238 different points of entry (such as airports). But they can operate anywhere in the US. > > [https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/border-patrol-charlotte-atlanta-100-mile-zone/](https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/border-patrol-charlotte-atlanta-100-mile-zone/) > > > The 100-mile zone limits Border Patrol’s authority to a certain extent: they cannot board buses or trains outside the zone, nor can they set up fixed vehicle checkpoints. It is, however, within their power to pull a driver over and interrogate them about their immigration status if they have “reasonable suspicion” that they are not a citizen. > > Note that the source above is an organization that does advocacy for immigrants’ rights and tries to provide legal counsel to immigrants in detention centers, so any bias they have would be against the CBP. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2794 "2026-02-03T20:57:46Z")
Ignorance fought. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2795 "2026-02-03T21:01:27Z")
You’re welcome! It’s a common misconception; especially since they’re called “border patrol”, it makes sense that they wouldn’t be able to operate elsewhere, but that’s not quite the case. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2796 "2026-02-03T22:53:48Z")
Assistant US attorney suffers a borderline nervous breakdown after federal judge questions her about why ICE is ignoring federal court orders: > “I wish you would just hold me in contempt of court so I can get 24 hours of sleep,” Le said. “The system sucks, this job sucks, I am trying with every breath I have to get you what I need.” > **[Federal attorney on ICE cases: ‘The system sucks’](https://www.fox9.com/news/federal-attorney-ice-cases-the-system-sucks)** > > A federal judge in Minnesota demanded to know why ICE is not complying with court orders and failing to immediately release immigrants who are being wrongfully detained as part of Operation Metro Surge. A government attorney responded that the... ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2797 "2026-02-03T23:05:06Z")
So, she worked for ICE, then the DOJ, then volunteered to assist ICE to help out. One on hand, I have some sympathy for someone shoved forward by bosses who don’t want to show their faces. On the other hand, she seems to like working for ICE, so fuck her. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2798 "2026-02-03T23:08:15Z")
Of all the legal strategies ever attempted by a practicing lawyer, arguing “But following the law is _hard_” in front of a judge is certainly one of them ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2799 "2026-02-03T23:17:51Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > “But following the law is _hard_” in front of a judge is certainly one of them I gathered it was more, “Following the law when we toss so many people in jail we can’t keep up is hard.” The obvious answer is to slow down so that you make sure you do it correctly, but that’s not up to her. Actually, the **obvious** obvious answer is to go find somewhere else to work. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/2800 "2026-02-03T23:26:36Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Actually, the **obvious** obvious answer is to go find somewhere else to work. This. She’s a civilian, She can always quit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=139) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=141)