# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/301 "2025-02-18T00:02:33Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> No, selling it to a NAZI will be taking a NAZI’s money and letting him have the priviledge is driving the swashtika around.

Which means that you both get what you want, and you’re both happy. Congratulations. You just made a Nazi happy.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/302 "2025-02-18T00:10:25Z")

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Your bullshit meter is in calibration. I live outside Atlanta. I see Teslas all the time. I hear “Dixie” car horns and see MAGA flags and bumper stickers all the time.

“Swastikar”  
“SwasTacoma”  
“Swastick-shift”

This is fun!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/303 "2025-02-18T00:35:10Z")

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At least the Nazi’s money doesn’t actually go to Elmo if they’re buying a used model.

I’ve seen people trying to get a “Sell Your Tesla” movement going on Reddit - I’m thinking it needs to be “sell your Tesla AND donate the proceeds to a charity that helps someone Elon hates”.

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/304 "2025-02-18T00:53:43Z")

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I heard some guy on YouTube call dear leader

Save-a-Lot Stalin

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/305 "2025-02-18T01:31:53Z")

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Buying a car is a major investment. Selling it for a tiny fraction of what you paid to take a political stance is laudable but should not be considered mandatory. I have no animosity toward anyone who bought a Tesla years ago and still has it. Buying a new (or used) one today is a different story.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/306 "2025-02-18T04:18:23Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And now it’s 2025 and you do know, so you have no excuse

Cool, send me a check, and I’ll be in a new EV by the end of the week.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/307 "2025-02-18T04:21:01Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I’ve seen people trying to get a “Sell Your Tesla” movement going on Reddit - I’m thinking it needs to be “sell your Tesla AND donate the proceeds to a charity that helps someone Elon hates”.

Nice idea, sure but even most Tesla owners aren’t necessarily _that_ financially well-off to be able to do that without some serious pain to their finances.

There are a couple of people here (not just you) who seem to be being very judgmental about people who bought Teslas before Musk’s recent activities.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/308 "2025-02-18T04:22:35Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> There are a couple of people here (not just you) who seem to be being very judgmental about people who bought Teslas before Musk’s recent activities.

If I found out that, say, Paul McCartney had become a Nazi, I wouldn’t keep listening to my Beatles albums just because he wasn’t a Nazi 60 years ago, know what I mean?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/309 "2025-02-18T04:23:59Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If I found out that, say, Paul McCartney had become a Nazi, I wouldn’t keep listening to my Beatles albums just because he wasn’t a Nazi 60 years ago, know what I mean?

Sure. But there’s a big difference between expecting people to not listen to music that they had previously bought any longer, and expecting people to _immediately_ sell off their Teslas – as well as expecting that they should then:

> [@Smapti](#):
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> AND donate the proceeds to a charity that helps someone Elon hates

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/310 "2025-02-18T04:29:26Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Nice idea, sure but even most Tesla owners aren’t necessarily _that_ financially well-off to be able to do that without some serious pain to their finances.

Ehh, if you bought a Tesla new, you _probably_ have the wherewithal to trade it in on another car and take a bit of a loss it if’s important to you. But then again, I don’t think you should put a ton of stock in what other people think about what you drive.

Part of that is because:

> [@Smapti](#):
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> If I found out that, say, Paul McCartney had become a Nazi, I wouldn’t keep listening to my Beatles albums just because he wasn’t a Nazi 60 years ago, know what I mean?

Ehh, I still happily listen to the Velvet Underground. Moe Tucker becoming a Trumpist only diminishes my enjoyment only a smidgen. If Paul went full on neo-nazi tomorrow, his old stuff would still be inoffensive pablum.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Driving a Tesla is now an explicitly political act. It indicates either that you support Elon Musk or that you’re OK with being mistaken for someone who does. Neither is a good look.

> [@scabpicker](#):
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> If Paul went full on neo-nazi tomorrow, his old stuff would still be inoffensive pablum.

I for one can’t listen to Ted Nugent anymore because of who he’s become.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/312 "2025-02-18T04:32:19Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I wouldn’t keep listening to my Beatles albums just because he wasn’t a Nazi 60 years ago

So throwing away a $20 record is the same as throwing away a $50,000 car, got it.

Do you think I like driving a car so closely associated with a Nazi who has performed a (so far) successful coup on the US government? Do you think I like that when I buy parts it enriches him even a tiny bit?

Fuck all of that. If I had $30,000 or so budgeted for another car it would have been gone yesterday. If I had “All I Wanna Do” money, I’d have donated it to NPR, too.

I get that you’re angry about what’s happening, but pick a target that matters.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/313 "2025-02-18T04:32:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Driving a Tesla is now an explicitly political act.

No shit.

Getting out from under a loan, as well as trading in your Tesla and getting something else, are not necessarily things that _all_ Tesla drivers can easily do at the drop of a hat.

Some of the posts, including yours, seem to be implying that Tesla drivers, as a group, are uber-wealthy, and can easily do such things. That’s presumptuous.

ETA: @echoreply explained this even better than I did.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/314 "2025-02-18T04:37:03Z")

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Then take the bus.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
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_checks forum_

FUCK YOU, you holier-than-thou asshat.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
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Look folks, The People’s ~~Poet~~ Anti-fascist has spoken. I’m sure he be denouncing Fords and VWs (et al) next.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/317 "2025-02-18T04:39:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Driving a Tesla is now an explicitly political act.

No, it’s not, especially if it was bought more than a year or so ago. One might want to put a disclaimer bumper sticker on it to insulate themselves from crusaders, though.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I for one can’t listen to Ted Nugent anymore because of who he’s become.

Ehh, I couldn’t listen to him after about 90 or so. His lyrics sucked, and I could play about 75% of anything he could at the drop of a hat. Stopping listening to Nugent isn’t really a political act, more one of ignoring a long-time has-been who wasn’t that interesting in his heyday.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/318 "2025-02-18T04:41:48Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I’m sure he be denouncing Fords and VWs (et al) next.

If it were 1941 I wouldn’t be driving either one of those no matter when I bought it. I won’t even ride in a Tesla as a passenger.

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**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/319 "2025-02-18T04:47:41Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Then take the bus

As long as I’m magicking up a new car, I’ll also get right on with fixing the systemic problems in the US’ transportation infrastructure that make taking the bus an impossible option for so much of the country.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I’m sure he be denouncing Fords

Remember during WWII when Ford drivers were rounded up and put in internment camps because old Henry was a Nazi sympathizer, and driving a Ford was considered aiding and abetting?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/320 "2025-02-18T04:58:07Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> … you’re OK with being mistaken for someone who does.

By dumbfucks and [Rick-wannabees](https://theyoungones.fandom.com/wiki/Rick) too stupid to understand that buying a Tesla a few years ago wasn’t an unethical choice (potentially quite the opposite) and that not everyone has the money to throw away the value they’d lose by now selling.

No doubt you have the cash to throw around to do that, and will shortly be donating an appropriate equivalent amount “to a charity that helps someone Elon hates" in solidarity with those of whom you make equivalent demands. Unless of course you are a hypocritical fucktard, and we know you aren’t that.

Feel free to post a copy of the receipt.

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