# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/321 "2025-02-18T05:12:14Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > By dumbfucks and [Rick-wannabees](https://theyoungones.fandom.com/wiki/Rick) too stupid to understand that buying a Tesla a few years ago wasn’t an unethical choice How many years ago are we talking? Before he bought Twitter? Before he blew up a rocket by launching it before it was ready because he wanted to launch it on 4/20? Before he tried to bribe his masseuse for a handjob? Before he deadnamed his trans child and declared she was dead to him? Before he smoked a blunt on Joe Rogan while firing employees who tested positive for weed? Before he threatened to fire his employees if they didn’t report to work in defiance of covid shutdowns? Before he called an expert cave diver a pedophile because nobody wanted his submarine that wouldn’t work? Before he emotionally abused all the mothers of his children? Before he had safety signs removed from his factories because he doesn’t like the color yellow? Before he sold the world on vacuum trains that he knew were physically impossible in order to stop California from investing in high-speed rail? Before he bought his way into Tesla, fired the founders, and claimed to have invented the tech himself? Elon has ALWAYS been a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/322 "2025-02-18T05:21:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Elon has ALWAYS been a piece of shit. He’s been a visible asshole for a while. He hasn’t been a visible Nazi, or been actively working to destroy the US government, for long. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/323 "2025-02-18T05:22:06Z")
We could install wheels on those goalposts for you, if it would help you. We’re still going to know you are carrying on like a prick. But it might make it easier on your back. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/324 "2025-02-18T05:28:22Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > We could install wheels on those goalposts for you The goalpost is “Don’t drive the Nazi car if you don’t want people to think you’re a Nazi and don’t give Nazis plausible deniability by driving the Nazi car if you aren’t one”. [![](https://i.imgur.com/98cF5DX_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand) ](https://i.imgur.com/98cF5DX_d.webp?maxwidth=1520&fidelity=grand) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/325 "2025-02-18T05:33:02Z")
I would just like to agree, driving VWs was the defining thing about German fascism. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/326 "2025-02-18T05:33:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The goalpost is “Don’t drive the Nazi car if you don’t want people to think you’re a Nazi and don’t give Nazis plausible deniability by driving the Nazi car if you aren’t one”. Then, how did it move to the below, where you seem to be saying that Tesla owners “should have known better,” years ago? > [@Smapti](#): > > How many years ago are we talking? Before he bought Twitter? Before he blew up a rocket by launching it before it was ready because he wanted to launch it on 4/20? Before he tried to bribe his masseuse for a handjob? Before he deadnamed his trans child and declared she was dead to him? Before he smoked a blunt on Joe Rogan while firing employees who tested positive for weed? Before he threatened to fire his employees if they didn’t report to work in defiance of covid shutdowns? Before he called an expert cave diver a pedophile because nobody wanted his submarine that wouldn’t work? Before he emotionally abused all the mothers of his children? Before he had safety signs removed from his factories because he doesn’t like the color yellow? Before he sold the world on vacuum trains that he knew were physically impossible in order to stop California from investing in high-speed rail? Before he bought his way into Tesla, fired the founders, and claimed to have invented the tech himself? > > Elon has ALWAYS been a piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/327 "2025-02-18T05:36:01Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Then, how did it move to the below, where you seem to be saying that Tesla owners “should have known better,” years ago? Do we give the Nazis who joined the party in 1933 a pass because they didn’t know what Hitler was going to do later? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/328 "2025-02-18T05:38:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Do we give the Nazis who joined the party in 1933 a pass because they didn’t know what Hitler was going to do later? You are trying very very hard to accuse people who currently own Teslas which they bought years ago, of being morally lacking, because they did not have the precognition to foresee that Musk would become an overt fascist and become Trump’s anti-government hatchet man in 2025. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/329 "2025-02-18T05:46:47Z")
I’m saying that if I see someone driving a Tesla I’m going to assume they’re a Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/330 "2025-02-18T05:48:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Elon has ALWAYS been a piece of shit. The problem is, that basically applies to anyone who runs a company and back then he didn’t stand out. Buying a different brand of car, the CEO will still be an awful person. Buy a bike instead, the manufacturer will be run by yet another awful person. Decide to walk instead, your _shoes_ were probably made by a company run by awful people. You can’t avoid giving money to horrible people in a society _built_ to elevate awful people and funnel money to them. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/331 "2025-02-18T05:48:59Z")
You do you, then. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/332 "2025-02-18T05:50:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m saying that if I see someone driving a Tesla I’m going to assume they’re a Nazi. And I’m saying that you’re assuming perfect information on the part of the consumer. That doesn’t exist, so you should probably recalibrate your Nazimiter. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/333 "2025-02-18T05:52:16Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > And I’m saying that you’re assuming perfect information on the part of the consumer. As well as precognition. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/334 "2025-02-18T05:58:34Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > And I’m saying that you’re assuming perfect information on the part of the consumer. Yeah. To use myself as an example up until he bought Twitter I knew virtually nothing about him outside of him being a typical techbro jerk; if I’d bought a Tesla before then it would have been totally unrelated to his to-me unknown politics. And I’m sure that many or most of the people who bought Teslas back then likewise had little to no knowledge of him. Not everyone has spent the last 30 years of their life following Elon Musk. Sure, things are different _now_…but that’s now. Not then. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/335 "2025-02-18T06:01:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Driving a Tesla is now an explicitly political act. Asinine. > [@Smapti](#): > > …if I see someone driving a Tesla I’m going to assume they’re a Nazi. I assume they are Idiots because I think they are Ugly, Crap cars. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/336 "2025-02-18T06:23:50Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > At least the Nazi’s money doesn’t actually go to Elmo if they’re buying a used model. Not necessarily true. Carmakers, not just Tesla but certainly trailblazed by them, have been attempting to shift to a subscription model, specifically so they can get a piece of this secondary market. Consider that new BMWs, for just one example, have all the bells and whistles installed on the car, but you need to sign up and pay a recurring fee to “unlock” them so they’re usable. This is true for the original owner, _and then_ it is true for the next owner when the car is resold. Without this subscription, it’s just a minimally functional roller skate. Similarly, the buyer of a used Tesla is not acquiring all the features the seller enjoyed; the **[fees continue](https://blog.onlyusedtesla.com/tesla-slashes-fsd-subscription-to-99-month-the-impact-on-upfront-purchases-a98cced00b21)** after purchase. This is not to say your argument is strengthened or that you’re not being an asshole in this thread. You’re being difficult and unreasonable and pigheaded and stupid, and you should stop. On top of that, you’re also factually wrong on the point above. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/337 "2025-02-18T09:15:24Z")
And Og help you if you still find Daisy Duke hot or the General Lee a bitchin’ ride… I should apologize in advance by admitting my 2008 CR-V was probably made in Canada, or Mexico, or both, but maybe assembled someplace else other than CA, which would make me a Trudeau supporter (sacre bleu!) or worse, a supporter of cocaine dealers and illegals. 🙄 There’s also the eight pairs of Nikes that show I support slave labor in China, I suppose… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/338 "2025-02-18T10:59:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Do we give the Nazis who joined the party in 1933 a pass because they didn’t know what Hitler was going to do later? It’s not quite the same, but this guy seemed to have been given a pass. > **[Early life of Pope Benedict XVI](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Pope_Benedict_XVI)** > > The early life of Pope Benedict XVI concerns the period from his birth in 1927 through the completion of his education and ordination in 1951. > Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger was born on 16 April (Holy Saturday) 1927 at 11 Schulstrasse, his parents' home in Marktl am Inn, Bavaria and baptised on the same day. He was the third and youngest child of Joseph Ratzinger Sr. (1877–1959), a police officer, and his wife, Maria (née Peintner) (1884–1963), whose family were from South Tyrol. His father served... ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/339 "2025-02-18T11:07:31Z")
You can just point to Wernher von Braun. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/340 "2025-02-18T14:35:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > > [@Smapti](#): > > > > Elon has ALWAYS been a piece of shit. > > The problem is, that basically applies to anyone who runs a company and back then he didn’t stand out. Buying a different brand of car, the CEO will still be an awful person. Buy a bike instead, the manufacturer will be run by yet another awful person. Decide to walk instead, your _shoes_ were probably made by a company run by awful people. > > You can’t avoid giving money to horrible people in a society _built_ to elevate awful people and funnel money to them. Just a note: When **Der\_Trihs** thinks you’re going too far… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=18)