# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3782 "2026-05-14T06:16:06Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> it’ll be a full generation, if **ever** before I’ll consider a Republican candidate no matter how qualified

I mailed my Primary ballot in today. I marked “None of these Candidates” for all I could. Weak protest, I know.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3783 "2026-05-14T06:27:12Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Weak protest, I know.

Still, good on you.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3784 "2026-05-14T12:52:54Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> He knows MAGA is with him on this and that’s all he cares about. And they are. Their latest firmly held belief is that Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon.

Well, what Trump has done is if the do get a nuke, they will use it. And now they want one more than ever.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3785 "2026-05-14T12:56:00Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> But it’ll be a full generation, if **ever** before I’ll consider a Republican candidate no matter how qualified, because no post facto apologies or claims of ignorance can be credible given the information available. In short, Fuck those people.

Yup 100%. Never have I, and never will I vote for these criminals.

They had a number of chances to fix this, but they looked away.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3786 "2026-05-14T13:31:02Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yup 100%. Never have I, and never will I vote for these criminals.

Seconded. After 1/6/21, I swore I would never ever vote for a Pubbie.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3787 "2026-05-14T14:38:51Z")

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I used to at least _consider_ Republicans’ arguments. They have proven to virtually _always_ be wrong. And, since the nomination of Mr. Potato Head, they have shown that they are, in fact, fascists. They’ve been getting worse and worse since Newt Gingrich and his Contract on America\*.\* I will _never_ vote for a Republican until they all become Democratic Socialists.

\* Yes, I know.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3788 "2026-05-14T18:25:26Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I used to at least _consider_ Republicans’ arguments. They have proven to virtually _always_ be wrong.

Do they even have any arguments anymore? Mostly what I hear from them these days is just name calling. And not just from the Orange One, although he, of course, is the worst at that.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3789 "2026-05-14T18:27:23Z")

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That sounds suspiciously woke

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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I’ve voted for Republicans now and then in local and state elections when they were the better candidates, but I’ve never voted for a Republican for any Federal post, and I doubt I ever will, especially in the Trump Era.

> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> [‘Duped’: Ari Melber breaks down the MAGA backlash over Trump Mobile disaster](https://www.ms.now/news/trump-mobile-backlash-gold-smartphone-grift-meme-coin)
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> What? A Trump-branded project has failed to deliver?

I am all amazement.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3791 "2026-05-14T20:59:54Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I’ve voted for Republicans now and then in local and state elections when they were the better candidates,

I used to do this, especially for a few I knew personally at the local level. But they chose to continue associating themselves with pedophiles, fascists, and grifters. If there’s no viable non-Republican candidate, then “None of the Above” it is

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3792 "2026-05-14T21:54:21Z")

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I registered as a Republican\* to help a viable Republican candidate, “None of the Above” was the only candidate that wasn’t either MAGA or clinically insane.  
\*First time I’ve registered for any party primary in NJ in my 62 years.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3793 "2026-05-15T09:17:37Z")

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I know there’s been a lot of fuss and concern about your amazing Trump phones that may or may not have been temporarily delayed\*, but don’t worry! They’re coming this week-ish!

\*Mention of possible delays in no way indicates that delays happened, or accepts any penalties from any possible delay.

> **[Trump's gold phone to finally ship after 'final assembly' in Florida](https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2026/05/13/trump-t1-phone-ship-release-florida-assembly/90051169007/)**
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> After nearly nine months of uncertainty, Trump's golden phone is slated to ship next week, following "final assembly" in Florida.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3794 "2026-05-15T12:02:28Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Especially when the vast majority of voters already blame those decisions on the tanking economy.

For decades, I’ve told people they shouldn’t think the president has much effect on economic cycles, either way. Some, but not that much. You shouldn’t blame the president THAT much for a downturn, nor praise him THAT much for a time of prosperity.

But this time, it’s objectively true that a president (enabled by a rubber-stamp Congress) really IS responsible for a downturn (as measured by several indices). It’s all so unnecessary this time, and so driven by moronic actions by that one man.

As has happened in several plane crashes, things would have kept improving if he had done NOTHING — that was the cycle we were in — but he had to pull a Bonin and stall the plane for no good reason whatsoever.

> **[Air France Flight 447](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447)**
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> Air France Flight 447 was a scheduled international transatlantic passenger flight from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, France. On 1 June 2009, inconsistent airspeed indications and the resulting miscommunication between the pilots of the Airbus A330 led to an inadvertent stall. They failed to recover the aircraft from the stall, and the aircraft crashed into the mid-Atlantic Ocean at 02:14 UTC, killing all 228 passengers and crew on board.
> The Brazilian Navy recove...

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3795 "2026-05-15T12:17:02Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> For decades, I’ve told people they shouldn’t think the president has much effect on economic cycles, either way. Some, but not that much. You shouldn’t blame the president THAT much for a downturn, nor praise him THAT much for a time of prosperity.
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> But this time, it’s objectively true that a president (enabled by a rubber-stamp Congress) really IS responsible for a downturn (as measured by several indices). It’s all so unnecessary this time, and so driven by moronic actions by that one man.

Yes. As I see it, the first is because the economy is a very large and complicated self-organizing system that can’t really be controlled very well by the government even when it’s designed to be (and command economies seldom worked well either). And the President isn’t even the entire government (not that Trump ever got that memo).

_But,_ Trump is demonstrating the old principle that it’s much easier to destroy than it is to create or preserve. There’s a pretty limited amount a President can do to make the economy _better,_ but he can certainly make a good try at burning it all down.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> the economy is a very large and complicated self-organizing system

And a _global_ system. The US has an outsized role within that system, but it is fundamentally transnational — globally interconnected and interdependent.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3797 "2026-05-15T12:35:24Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> And a _global_ system. The US has an outsized role within that system, but it is fundamentally transnational — globally interconnected and interdependent.

Correct.

In fairness to Trump (ugh) he certainly isn’t the one who came up with the idea that the President is God-King of the World and has unlimited authority over it, and could fix everything if he just tried. He’s just the first who seems to actually believe it personally.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3798 "2026-05-15T13:07:39Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> For decades, I’ve told people they shouldn’t think the president has much effect on economic cycles, either way. Some, but not that much. You shouldn’t blame the president THAT much for a downturn, nor praise him THAT much for a time of prosperity.

I used to argue the same thing. But this is the first president in my lifetime who enacts policy seemingly with the deliberate intent to hurt the United States. And the first time I can think of a Congress willing to back policies they _must_ know will hurt the United States.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
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Otherwise he might send out a mean tweet at them. Fucking cowards.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3800 "2026-05-15T15:36:47Z")

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Indeed.

Meanwhile, in court…

Above the Law: DOJ Gets Nuked By RI Judge For ‘Appalling’ Lack Of Candor

> **[DOJ Gets Nuked By RI Judge For 'Appalling' Lack Of Candor - Above the Law](https://abovethelaw.com/2026/05/doj-gets-nuked-by-ri-judge-for-appalling-lack-of-candor/?utm_campaign=Above%20the%20Law%20Daily&utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8uOIuvV356qMyh_IAw74WoaLwkq9lGXj510xgUUmMG2LN4ZEYmLhp-XEZDdORVMLn6QHTgwwNAjOkUOrK-tiaJtdfNWg&_hsmi=418930067&utm_content=418930067&utm_source=hs_email)**
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> Benchnuked???

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
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> [@Odesio](#):
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> I used to argue the same thing. But this is the first president in my lifetime who enacts policy seemingly with the deliberate intent to hurt the United States. And the first time I can think of a Congress willing to back policies they _must_ know will hurt the United States.

Totally. All in the name of…wait for it…_Make America Great Again_. (!!!)

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