# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 199
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3962 "2026-06-12T14:41:27Z")
The former. The Bee occasionally stumbles into ‘clever’ but this is almost always by accident ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3963 "2026-06-12T16:24:05Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Jared and Ivanka’s purchase of the Albanian island has been mentioned in other threads, It’s being called the Flamingo Revolution, because that island is a sanctuary for the endangered birds. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3964 "2026-06-13T06:22:51Z")
Another dupe who still likes Dump. US wife wants to visit Trump Doral hotel and possible glimpse the POS. Well things didn’t go as planned. Husband gets detained as criminal illegal per DHS. Whole story here. Tough on family and scathing indictment of DHS and immigration program. > **[He took his wife, a Trump fan, to the president’s hotel in Doral. Instead he...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/venezuelan-immigrant-detained-doral-trump-rcna348507)** > > A honeymoon plan ended in an arrest, months of detention and over $80,000 in debt for Venezuelan immigrant Bryan Rojas, who’s married to a U.S. citizen. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3965 "2026-06-13T10:59:07Z")
> “I’m his fan. I believe Trump is a good president,” she said. However, Zaragosa noted this political loyalty co-exists with the disappointment she feels over the months her husband spent in detention. Trump supporters are so fucking stupid. > “I thought that was it — that my family was over. I thought I would wake up one day and find that I had lost him,” Zaragosa said, “that I would be left all alone with my son.” Obviously you don’t love your husband that much, lady, if you’re still a fan of the scumbag who did all that to him. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3966 "2026-06-13T11:49:46Z")
What do you expect from someone who can’t even write the name of the **[city](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaragoza)** they came from right? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3967 "2026-06-13T14:15:58Z")
You mean _ **Caesaraugusta** _? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3968 "2026-06-13T15:11:56Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Trump supporters are so fucking stupid. From the article, > He spent more than three months in ICE custody in Florida. Rojas also faced accusations of gang affiliation; he says he feared being deported to El Salvador and lost his stable job and work permit. The family says they’ve lost their house and car, had to deplete Rojas’ 401(k) and are in debt. > > “In the end, it was a bad decision,” Rojas, 34, said in an interview Ya think? Some people won’t change until they personally feel the pain, and being in a cult is a powerful anesthetic. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3969 "2026-06-13T15:35:58Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Obviously you don’t love your husband that much, lady, if you’re still a fan of the scumbag who did all that to him. Agreed. The term _cognitive dissonance_ comes to mind. And yes, this is all typical of cult psychology. Who do you value more on a personal level? Your husband or your cult leader? As far as the cult is concerned there’s only one correct answer to that question. This type of situation is becoming distressingly more common it seems like. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3970 "2026-06-13T17:04:11Z")
[Incriminated Trump lawyer begs state judge to respect president’s pardon](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/incriminated-trump-lawyer-begs-state-judge-to-respect-president-s-pardon/ar-AA25ksiQ) > President Donald Trump’s former campaign attorney is facing 11 counts of forgery in the state of Wisconsin for his role in the president’s [fake elector scheme](https://www.alternet.org/fake-electors-michigan/) to overthrow a legitimate U.S. election. Now the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel [reports](https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2026/06/10/trumps-ex-wisconsin-attorney-cites-pardon-seeks-charge-to-be-dropped/90490869007/) he wants a Wisconsin judge to let him off the hook. > > … > > “… President Trump has chosen to pardon him,” Troupis’ attorneys argued. Dude. Presidential pardons don’t work for state charges. Too bad, so sad. > Additionally, Troupis is asking the judge to move his case to Jefferson County, arguing that he won’t get a fair trial in Dane County due to the ballots he sought to victimize and disqualify during the 2020 recount were from Dane County voters. > > “Here, the ‘victims’ will include, at the very least, all Dane County residents whose votes were challenged. That is so because jurors will be told, repeatedly, that Troupis tried to unlawfully throw out their votes, their family’s votes, their friend’s votes, their neighbor’s votes,” If the case is moved, the jurors will be told, repeatedly, that Troupis tried to unlawfully throw out the votes of other state residents, the residents’ families’ votes, their friends in other districts’ votes, and their other residents, neighbours’ votes. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3971 "2026-06-13T17:17:09Z")
And, “Trump pardoned me,” is not the flex he thinks it is. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3972 "2026-06-13T17:54:11Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > “Trump pardoned me,” is not the flex he thinks it is. Correct. A pardon does not absolve a person of guilt. That might have been the legal theory at one time, but it isn’t currently. [Congress.gov: **ArtII.S2.C1.3.7 Legal Effect of a Pardon**](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-7/ALDE_00013324/) > Later cases underscored the limits of the Court’s previous sweeping language. First, contrary to the suggestion of _Garland_ that a pardon blots out of existence the guilt associated with the offense,[8](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-7/ALDE_00013324/#ALDF_00022781) the Court in _Burdick_ stated that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it.[9](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-7/ALDE_00013324/#ALDF_00022782) Then, in _Carlesi v. New York_, the Court determined that a pardoned offense could still be considered as a circumstance of aggravation under a state habitual-offender law,[10](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-7/ALDE_00013324/#ALDF_00022783) reflecting that although a pardon may obviate the punishment for a federal crime, it does not erase the facts associated with the crime or preclude all collateral effects arising from those facts. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3973 "2026-06-13T18:18:45Z")
I like it when people read my links 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3974 "2026-06-13T18:25:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Correct. A pardon does not absolve a person of guilt. That might have been the legal theory at one time, but it isn’t currently. What about the rest of those bozos that actually petended to be electors and showed up at the capitol? Are they in prison yet? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2026, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3975 "2026-06-14T03:38:36Z")
It’s AI altered but hopefully a common sight soon. > ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3976 "2026-06-15T00:26:35Z")
I have avoided Mr. Potato Head and his Big Gay Birthday Bash [_South Park_ reference 😉], but I just saw this on Farcebook: > **Did Trump REALLY just blame the weather channel for no one showing up to his $60 million cage fight birthday?** What did I miss? ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3977 "2026-06-15T00:47:19Z")
> [@The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6295): > > The whitehouse is blaming the weather channel for the bad weather. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USBHP1OVBZw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USBHP1OVBZw) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3978 "2026-06-15T00:51:45Z")
Oy, veh/ ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3979 "2026-06-15T01:42:48Z")
A moment of schadenfreude! > **[McConnell hospitalized and ‘receiving excellent care,’ spokesperson says |...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/14/politics/mitch-mcconnell-hospital)** > > Sen. Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, was admitted to the hospital Sunday morning, according to his spokesperson. > “Senator McConnell was admitted to the hospital this morning. He is receiving excellent care,” spokesperson David Popp said. > > The statement did not address the cause of McConnell’s hospitalization or his condition. I hope he has a very, very long protracted recovery but doesn’t retire and let anyone fill his post prior to the upcoming election to further screw with any last minute efforts to push MAGA efforts in the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3980 "2026-06-15T03:12:58Z")
I don’t like to kick anyone when they’re down, but McConnell has done a lot of awful things to this country over the years, and now… well, I’d probably better just stop there. Grrrrr. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2026, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/3981 "2026-06-15T04:38:10Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > … well, I’d probably better just stop there You should get it all out now! That way you don’t have to speak ill of the dead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=198) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=200)