# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 215
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2026, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4282 "2026-07-19T10:16:14Z")
Why? Hell, I’m surprised Tate was arrested. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4283 "2026-07-19T11:13:16Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The crimes they’ve been arrested for took place in the UK, so he can’t. Right, but it was the US Marshals Service that took him into custody, so Trump could order them released. Not sure he wants to go there; it’d give the Dems lots of ammunition. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4284 "2026-07-19T18:23:07Z")
What is the origin of the name Batarti? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2026, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4285 "2026-07-19T21:16:31Z")
Google’s AI tossed this up, citing [People.com](https://people.com/tulsi-gabbard-brother-batarti-charged-allegedly-trying-to-lure-kids-hotel-room-12022188) – > **Batarti** is not a traditional historical surname or given name. Instead, it is **a self-chosen pseudonym adopted by Bhakti Gabbard** (the older brother of former Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard) during a period of mental health struggles. [[1](https://people.com/tulsi-gabbard-brother-batarti-charged-allegedly-trying-to-lure-kids-hotel-room-12022188), [2](https://thoughtcatalog.com/jeremy-london/2026/07/tulsi-gabbards-brother-was-arrested-after-allegedly-offering-children-gum-and-money-at-a-hawaii-resort-pool-and-inviting-them-to-his-room/), [3](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/tulsi-gabbards-brother-accused-allegedly-133157081.html)] ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4286 "2026-07-20T13:15:05Z")
Spain edited Trump out of their celebration photo after winning the World Cup. [![](https://i.ibb.co/wFbZMtWw/3f1a0ea1-c1ba-44c2-8819-31caabdc7e3f.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/wFbZMtWw/3f1a0ea1-c1ba-44c2-8819-31caabdc7e3f.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4287 "2026-07-20T13:18:19Z")
In other news, a new round of tariffs on Spain is expected to be announced later today. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4288 "2026-07-20T13:36:10Z")
In other news, imgbb continues its behavior of censoring edited images after the initial upload, and lying about the reason. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4289 "2026-07-20T13:42:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Spain edited Trump out of their celebration photo after winning the World Cup. let’s just hope he knows about it. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4290 "2026-07-20T15:53:13Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Ron DeSantis Announces Andrew Tate Is Not Welcome in the State of Florida Follow up: [Andrew and Tristan Tate arrested in Florida](https://www.npr.org/2026/07/18/g-s1-134475/tate-brothers-arrested-miami) > Influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan have been arrested in Miami after British authorities issued 38 new charges against them, including allegations of rape and sex trafficking. > > The United Kingdom’s Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) released [a statement](https://www.cps.gov.uk/national-news/news/cps-decides-prosecute-tate-brothers-additional-sexual-offences) saying that the two men had been arrested by the U.S. Marshals Service on Saturday. The CPS said it was “seeking extradition” for the two brothers, aiming to bring them to Britain to face a total of 59 charges. I’ll believe these two will actually face any real justice only when and if it happens. Odds are they will skate from this, too. But hopefully they are at least sweating a bit, the bastards. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4291 "2026-07-20T15:57:23Z")
I don’t know, why arrest them if there are no plans to extradite? Were they charged with anything in Miami? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4292 "2026-07-20T16:49:18Z")
Are you suggesting that the Crown Prosecution isn’t going to pursue these charges? Or that Trump will try to intervene in the extradition process? Surely in the latter case it would have made far more sense to instruct the DOJ not to execute the arrest warrant in the first place. With the extradition request in place and the Tates in custody, I think it’s far more likely that Trump has now never even heard of these guys. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4293 "2026-07-20T17:11:59Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Are you suggesting that the Crown Prosecution isn’t going to pursue these charges? Or that Trump will try to intervene in the extradition process? I am expressing a deep cynicism with regard to the legal ramifications often experienced by assholes with money and connections. For example, in the article I originally cited: > Andrew and Tristan moved to Romania, and in 2023, Romanian prosecutors filed a [criminal indictment](https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1183176707/andrew-tate-indicted-human-trafficking-rape-romania) against them, accusing the brothers of crimes including violence, rape, and human-trafficking, as well as forcing women to take part in pornography. The two men spent several months under house arrest near Bucharest, in a case which Romanian prosecutors are still investigating. > > However, last year, the Tate brothers [were allowed](https://www.npr.org/2025/02/27/nx-s1-5311621/andrew-tate-brothers-romania-florida) to leave Romania and travel to the United States. That was despite [efforts](https://www.npr.org/2024/03/12/1238086900/andrew-tate-arrested-romania-to-extradite-uk) by British authorities to have the two men extradited to the UK over earlier charges. 3 years on and the worst they got was a couple of months of house arrest and that case is clearly going nowhere. And the UK has been trying to get them extradited for years with no success. So basically: I’ll believe it when I see it. Their arrest in Miami is a good first step, but that’s all it is so far. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4294 "2026-07-20T17:27:07Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > assholes with money and connections Out of curiosity: do you happen to have an idea how much money they have and which connections they enjoy? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4295 "2026-07-20T17:37:24Z")
Tate brothers net worth estimates seem to vary between low tens and high hundreds of millions: > **[Andrew Tate's surprisingly small net worth after his huge claims don't add up](https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/andrew-tate-net-worth-boxing-36426556.amp)** > > Andrew Tate will make his boxing debut in the ring on Saturday night to fight Misfits heavyweight champion Chase DeMoor in Dubai Given the advantages to their “brand” of presenting themselves as hugely successful, I’m inclined to take the higher estimates with considerable salt, but they’re evidently not hurting for a few million here and there, at least. As for connections, there appears to be evidence linking the Tates directly to the Trumps, though I don’t know how close the connections are: > **[What are Trump’s connections to the Tate brothers exactly? | Rebecca Solnit](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/24/andrew-tate-trump-relationship)** > > According to Heidi Blake in the New Yorker, the Tate and Trump circles have overlapped at Mar-a-Lago. What does that mean? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4296 "2026-07-20T17:40:40Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > there appears to be evidence linking the Tates directly to the Trumps, though I don’t know how close the connections are Birds of a feather… ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4297 "2026-07-20T17:52:55Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > do you happen to have an idea how much money they have and which connections they enjoy? (First off, thanks to @Kimstu for providing some cites to answer this question). In one of the links inside the NPR story I linked earlier, from when the Tate’s were [arrested in Romania in 2023](https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1183176707/andrew-tate-indicted-human-trafficking-rape-romania), it says this: > As it announced the indictment, DIICOT also recommended the confiscation of a number of properties and assets, from real estate in three Romanian counties to 15 luxury cars. The list also includes hundreds of thousands of dollars in currency and cryptocurrency. > Tate, 36, was arrested years after he translated a career in kickboxing into life as a controversial online influencer. Women have been central to his plan to build wealth — both through a large adult webcam operation he ran with his brother, and through selling online courses on how to manipulate women, as [Reuters has reported](https://www.reuters.com/article/romania-human-trafficking-andrew-tate-idAFKBN2UC0WP). [A BBC article published last year](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67914864) about the Tate’s winning an appeal in Romanian court regarding their assets states: > Court documents released in June indicated the brothers had amassed millions of euros and acquired expensive assets and properties via their business activities, which included adult content and online self-help courses. So, according to court documents, at least “millions of euros” plus properties and “expensive assets,” which likely refers at least in part to the luxury cars mentioned above. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4298 "2026-07-20T17:58:51Z")
In terms of connections, there is a NY Times piece behind a paywall that seems to be directly on point: [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/us/andrew-tate-barron-trump-romania.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/us/andrew-tate-barron-trump-romania.html) The headline is: “How a Manosphere Star Accused of Rape and Trafficking Was Freed” and the sub-headline is: “Barred from leaving Romania, Andrew Tate courted powerful figures on the American right, from Tucker Carlson to Barron Trump. Then an extraordinary order let him go.” If anyone has a gift link, I think it would answer the question about connections quite well. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4299 "2026-07-20T18:01:17Z")
Thanks for the link, here is the **[gift](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/10/us/andrew-tate-barron-trump-romania.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zFA.GeXY.jD2fJp_AcUnH&smid=url-share)**. End of the month approaching and I haven’t gifted a single article yet. It’s about time. ETA: From the article: > The brothers, American and British citizens, had been barred from leaving Romania while prosecutors built their case. Does American law permit the extradition of an American citizen? ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4300 "2026-07-20T18:46:52Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Does American law permit the extradition of an American citizen? Yes. [We have a treaty with the UK for this](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7b82f240f0b62826a040d3/7146.pdf) (.pdf warning). I would not expect anything to happen quickly, though. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2026, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4301 "2026-07-20T19:04:35Z")
Glad to hear that. On an unrelated note, a bit of Schadenfreude about a foolish sculptor: The Guardian writes about a Charlie Kirk statue nobody commissioned: > **[New York sculptor spent $100,000 to make a Charlie Kirk statue no one wants...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/20/sculptor-charlie-kirk-statue-new-york)** > > Sergio Furnari said he thought the lifesize sculpture – which no one commissioned – would raise ‘millions’ of dollars > Sergio Furnari, originally from Italy, had hoped the statue of the deceased far-right activist, which he intends to display in Times Square, would raise “millions” of dollars. Instead, he said he has been inundated by messages from people saying they intend to urinate on the sculpture. > To add injury to insult, Furnari recently broke his foot working on the statue, after tripping over a roll of tape in his studio. For the record: I don’t believe that this horrible thing from Uncanny Valley that looks a lot like it was AI slop inspired has cost Mr. Furnari even close to the 100,000 $ he claims. He is just whining. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=214) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=216)