# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 219
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4362 "2026-08-01T18:26:44Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > They are probably the “you can fool some of the people all of the time” group that we often hear about. Well, they have created a circus already. I worry about what my be next. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4363 "2026-08-01T19:37:34Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’ll give it a point for at least appearing to understand that Africa is not a country. You’re sure about that? I can see them thinking Coat duh Ivory is a funny-named state in the country of Africa. > [@BlankSlate](#): > > Also, there was talk of the defense getting the grand jury transcripts released. I’m sure they needed to avoid that after the prosecution straight-up lied to get the indictment. Never having been on a grand jury I am muzzy on the details on how it works. I understand the prosecutor says, “We have this evidence point to the possibility that this person is guilty of a crime,” and the jury says either, “This is baloney,” or “Yes, there is enough evidence here to bring this to trial.” Is the prosecutor under any kind of oath when the information (I won’t call it evidence yet) is presented? If so how is the truthiness determined and what happens if the prosecutor did straight-up lie, which I have no trouble believing happened here and in many other Federal cases in the news lately. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4364 "2026-08-01T20:33:14Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > They are probably the “you can fool some of the people all of the time” group that we often hear about. A lot of them take it one step further and fool themselves. Which, like Tribbles being born pregnant, saves a great deal of time & energy. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4365 "2026-08-01T21:12:49Z")
Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum tries to pull Judge Winebox under the bus with him. [![](https://i.ibb.co/CkcJL5g/76b9ba10-6381-4e1d-946f-300eb8125ccf.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/CkcJL5g/76b9ba10-6381-4e1d-946f-300eb8125ccf.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4366 "2026-08-01T23:04:58Z")
I don’t see a mention of the judge in what you quoted. He does sound deranged though ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4367 "2026-08-01T23:14:44Z")
I think “Judge Winebox” here is in reference to the US attorney what’s her face. Cecily Strong did a wonderful impression of her. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4368 "2026-08-01T23:27:09Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I think “Judge Winebox” here is in reference to the US attorney what’s her face. Oh, I see. I’ve been whooshed. yes, he is throwing her under the bus, but I think he’s retaliating for her trying to save face by blaming Interior staff. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4369 "2026-08-01T23:28:00Z")
Jeanine Pirro ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4370 "2026-08-01T23:43:00Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Is the prosecutor under any kind of oath when the information (I won’t call it evidence yet) is presented? If so how is the truthiness determined and what happens if the prosecutor did straight-up lie, which I have no trouble believing happened here and in many other Federal cases in the news lately. As an officer of the court, prosecutors are bound to behave within certain ethical guidelines. You may have recently heard that judges are no longer giving federal prosecutors the presumption of regularity. The presumption of regularity is when the courts assume officers of the court are performing their jobs in good faith, making sure to follow rules and procedures. We’ve already seen federal cases where it turns out the prosecutor wasn’t instructing the grand jury properly, which is why judges no longer give them the presumption of regularity. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4371 "2026-08-02T00:57:58Z")
Capital One says anti-money laundering review prompted closure of more than 300 Trump-affiliated accounts. > Capital One Financial hit back on Friday against a lawsuit over its decision to close ‌the Trump Organization’s bank accounts years ago, stating that it did so after a review by anti-money laundering experts. > > The disclosure marks the first time a bank has formally tied money laundering concerns to U.S. President Donald Trump’s family business. Capital One is seeking to dismiss ​the case by casting doubt on claims of illegally debanking — or denying services on religious or political grounds — ​the Trump Organization. [https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/capital-one-says-it-closed-trump-organizations-accounts-after-anti-money-2026-08-01/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/capital-one-says-it-closed-trump-organizations-accounts-after-anti-money-2026-08-01/) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4372 "2026-08-02T04:10:10Z")
> [@robby](#): > > These are _really_ stupid people. > > That would also require them to realize that “Côte d’Ivoire” translates to “Ivory Coast.” Yeah, that’s not happening. I would have only guessed that Côte d’Ivoire’s name meant that it was on the sea because I already knew of the country called Ivory Coast. Otherwise I would have been misled by knowing that in France, something called a Côte sometimes is an inland hill or ridge. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4373 "2026-08-02T05:26:41Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > The presumption of regularity is when the courts assume officers of the court are performing their jobs in good faith, making sure to follow rules and procedures. We’ve already seen federal cases where it turns out the prosecutor wasn’t instructing the grand jury properly, which is why judges no longer give them the presumption of regularity. So, no oath breaking as such but does it rise to the point of letting the local bar know? (Rubs hands in anticipation) ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4374 "2026-08-02T06:50:02Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum tries to pull Judge Winebox under the bus with him. … They’re gonna need a bigger ~~boat~~ bus. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4375 "2026-08-02T12:22:23Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > So, no oath breaking as such but does it rise to the point of letting the local bar know? (Rubs hands in anticipation) I won’t pretend to be knowledgeable about federal (or any state) court proceedings. To the honest, I’ve learned a lot more about how federal courts are supposed to work during Trump’s break between administrations and his second. I don’t know if any meaningful punishment has been or can be doled out because of prosecutorial behavior during grand juries. I do know judges are a lot more willing to open up grand jury testimonies for examination than they were precisely because federal prosecutors can no longer be trusted. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4376 "2026-08-02T17:26:49Z")
And like I inferred, notifying the local bar association who will … encourage them to pursue another profession like Fox News reader. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4377 "2026-08-02T20:42:27Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > another profession like Fox News reader. Fast-track to the Cabinet! ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4378 "2026-08-03T10:07:51Z")
> [@robby](#): > > > [@JacobSwan](#): > > > > You don’t need to be an expert in African Geography to realise that the Ivory Coast probably isn’t a land locked country. > > C’mon, give them a break. These are _really_ stupid people. > > That would also require them to realize that “Côte d’Ivoire” translates to “Ivory Coast.” Yeah, that’s not happening. I mean, as someone who lives next to a place called Rhode Island, I’m not sure I can quite get behind that logic. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4379 "2026-08-03T13:55:23Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I mean, as someone who lives next to a place called Rhode Island, I’m not sure I can quite get behind that logic. I lived in Rhode Island for seven years, and my son was born there. The name of the state derives from Aquidneck Island (the original “Rhode Island”), which (a) is indisputably an island, (b) was one of the two main settlements of the original colony. (Despite this, it doesn’t make much of a significant proportion of the state by land area, less than 5%. It did make up a significant portion of the populated area of the original colony, though.) That’s why, when I lived there, the formal name of the state was the “State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations.” The latter part of the name referred to the mainland portion of the state. That was the name of the colony (and later the state) from 1636 until 2020. It took a ballot measure to remove “and Providence Plantations” from the name of the state in 2020 to address connotations with slavery. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4380 "2026-08-03T14:26:49Z")
> [@robby](#): > > It took a ballot measure to remove “and Providence Plantations” from the name of the state in 2020 to address connotations with slavery. And six years have already passed without TDS-addled GOPers in that state braying about DEI interventionism, or something, to try to get “and Providence Plantations” reinstated? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4381 "2026-08-03T14:27:35Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I lived in Rhode Island for seven years, and my son was born there. I was going to make a joke about how Tennessee Tuxedo and Chumley had rescued Rhode Island from being stolen, but then couldn’t remember if if were them or Super Chicken and Fred. Lo and behold, [I had asked that very question seven years ago](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-rescued-rhode-island-tennessee-tuxedo-or-super-chicken/840037). See post 2 for the cartoon in question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=218) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=220)