# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 243
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4842 "2026-10-14T11:54:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I don’t really want to just mock women for their looks But it _isn’t_ their looks, is it. Not the one nature gave them, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4843 "2026-10-14T11:59:06Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Do we have a “Mar-A-Lago Face” thread? Interestingly, there’s a wiki page for it. > **[Beauty trends among American conservatives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_trends_among_American_conservatives)** > > United States conservatives in the 2020s have demonstrated at least two notable beauty trends. The first is Republican makeup, also known as MAGA makeup, MAGA beauty or conservative girl makeup. This term describes the style and application of cosmetics by people (including both men and women) affiliated with Trumpism. The style refers to eyeliner, mascara, rouge, and foundation that are heavily applied so as to make their use obvious. This style contrasts with the natural makeu The other trend ... ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4844 "2026-10-14T12:37:06Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I don’t _get it_ she was a perfectly normal and attractive woman. Why oh why would she mutilate her face like that? She grew a few years older, and she decided she’d rather look like anything other than a normally aging human being. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4845 "2026-10-14T12:47:47Z")
I saw that and thought that must be a Photoshopped image. No one could purposefully do that. Then I thought, no, she must have some sort of condition. From what I can tell, the condition is bad plastic surgeon. And, there are plenty of shocking photos. [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoNSPJVBcZY0uCw8Lv4XAFuAKnwpttqk_vqR8nFh88WYYOLMSV6apKgDn4&s=10) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoNSPJVBcZY0uCw8Lv4XAFuAKnwpttqk_vqR8nFh88WYYOLMSV6apKgDn4&s=10) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4846 "2026-10-14T13:17:13Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Do we have a “Mar-A-Lago Face” thread? Here’s a little gallery that has been shared on social media (in this case, Facebook): [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTa7gl4VjTXQ3INkgJj1dkp7IizY9H7ORq7DJGwU-Cmic7y5rWjQYlbMQHp&s=10) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTa7gl4VjTXQ3INkgJj1dkp7IizY9H7ORq7DJGwU-Cmic7y5rWjQYlbMQHp&s=10) > [@Sylvanz](#): > > Why oh why would she mutilate her face like that? They’re in a cult. When you’re in a cult, you do cultish things. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4847 "2026-10-14T13:26:47Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Here’s a little gallery that has been shared on social media (in this case, Facebook): I know who the others are, but who is the woman in the top left ‘before / after’ view in that gallery? The ‘after’ looks like something out of a horror movie (shudder). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4848 "2026-10-14T13:27:51Z")
Laura Loomer. But yeah, I can never remember all of them. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4849 "2026-10-14T13:35:16Z")
Ah, OK thanks. I know who Laura Loomer is, but I never would have ID’ed her from the ‘before’ normal look, and that ‘after’ pic is a particularly bad one of her. It looks like she’s wearing a serial killer mask. All she needs is some cheek rouge applied in a spiral shape… [![](https://static0.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/saw-l.jpg?w=1200&h=628&fit=crop) ](https://static0.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/saw-l.jpg?w=1200&h=628&fit=crop) ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4850 "2026-10-14T13:46:21Z")
It’s like some warped version of what was fashionable in the 80s, minus the big hair (though it looks like they’re starting to work on that, too). Thinking on it further, that only makes sense. We have a senile, demented old man whose mores, values, and tastes are stuck well in the past. It’s the same thing with the buildings and interior decor, not even an accurate reflection of what came before when he was in what passes for his prime but some tasteless, mutated version that instantly repulses anybody with a functional aesthetic sense. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4851 "2026-10-14T13:56:26Z")
Not to mention his railing against “communists,” and his penchant for outdated military gear. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4852 "2026-10-14T14:14:48Z")
If it’s bad plastic surgery, she had it down quite a while ago - here is a photo gallery back to 2014: > **[Who is Barbera Thornhill? Then & Now Photos Revealed of Trump's New...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/barbera-thornhill-then-now-photos-010635120.html)** > > Barbera Thornhill has been going viral on social media after she was announced as Trump's new Ambassador-at-Large to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in I looked because I was assuming the original photo was altered. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4853 "2026-10-14T14:21:20Z")
She’s copying the now popular Kash Patel look. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4854 "2026-10-14T16:58:50Z")
To echo @Folacin and @wguy123 , I was certain that picture is photoshopped. Then I looked at the other pics of her online. I wonder if the other women in the photo talk about her amongst themselves. Or, does she know what she looks like and turns to them for sympathy. I have very sparse and weirdly shaped eyebrows. I think about saving up to have permanent ones done and then I picture it coming out like that and that’s the end of that dream. Are they subconsciously trying to look like blow up dolls? It’s clear they aren’t going for the “young and natural” look, so I wonder what they have in mind, and how they describe it to the suregeon / esthetician. Perhaps we do need a “Mar a Lago face” thread. It’s fascinating (to me) and there’s a lot more to it than just mocking these poor souls. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4855 "2026-10-14T17:17:41Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > these poor souls. I think most of them are quite rich. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4856 "2026-10-14T17:22:46Z")
Rich enough to pay plastic surgeons for making them look like alien creatures. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4857 "2026-10-14T17:27:06Z")
The thing about plastic surgery is that the effects aren’t permanent. The filler used can degrade, or start to droop or clump after some period of time. Then the patient has to have more surgery to fix it back up…and so on. If you start down that road, you may end up looking significantly worse at the end of it than if you had never had it done at all. I wonder how many surgeries these women have had. Even if it was well-done the first time (not a given), eventually they could end up with grotesque features like they have now. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4858 "2026-10-14T17:36:12Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > the patient has to have more surgery to fix it back up…and so on. If you start down that road, you may end up looking significantly worse at the end of it than if you had never had it done at all. e.g. Michael Jackson. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4859 "2026-10-14T17:55:43Z")
Could it just be conspicuous consumption? They’re getting obvious plastic surgery to show that they’re rich enough to afford it? ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4860 "2026-10-14T18:01:13Z")
I started a thread a long while back asking what the purpose of plastic surgery was before Mar-a-Lago face was in the common vernacular. Conspicuous consumption was one of my theories. For this particular phenomenon, I think it’s about fitting in. It’s about signaling to their peers that they belong. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/4861 "2026-10-14T18:06:01Z")
It’s not an unreasonable theory. History abounds with similar examples, like foot binding (heck, wearing high heels is different only in degree, not in kind there) or skull elongation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=242) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=244)