# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/61 "2025-01-22T19:56:29Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > There’s an upcoming executive order about there only being one, bible-approved hybrid gender. Upcoming? Here you have it: > **[Defending Women From Gender Ideology Extremism And Restoring Biological Truth...](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/)** > > By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 7301 of title 5, United Some details have already been mocked here, but the full text is… weird. > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > > > > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > > > > I misread this as “King Leopard vs. King _ **Leopold** _” and thought: [“That would be interesting.”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium) > > > > You weren’t the only one. Let’s just hope ours doesn’t try to repeat Leopold’s history in the Belgian Congo here… > > Me too, and I thought “Yeah, I’m rooting for King Leopard”. Obligatory lecture, IMO: > **[King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa...](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/King-Leopolds-Ghost-Colonial-Collection/dp/1035038811)** > > King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa (Picador Collection) : Hochschild, Adam: Amazon.de: Books Probably still the best account on the atrocities in Congo despite being first published more than 25 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/62 "2025-01-22T19:59:01Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > He said in 24 hours. He didn’t tell you _which_ 24 hours. I know you’re joking, but for history’s sake: > On the campaign trail, Donald Trump vowed to quickly end the war in Ukraine. He’d do it in “24 hours” after taking the oath, he said, or even before his inauguration. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/63 "2025-01-22T20:03:19Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Obligatory lecture, IMO: > > [King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa (Picador Collection, Band 155) : Hochschild, Adam: Amazon.de: Books](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/King-Leopolds-Ghost-Colonial-Collection/dp/1035038811) > > Probably still the best account on the atrocities in Congo despite being first published more than 25 years ago. There have been several editions and even a documentary based on the book: https://www.youtube.com/embed/8tSi4EZn-Kg?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/64 "2025-01-22T20:11:27Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > This point has been raised umpteen times alone at this board, but I think there’s no one in his inner circle who has the guts to explain it to him. We have video of someone attempting just that. It does not go well. > **[‘That is just simple mathematics’: Journalist presses Trump on his tariff plan...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/15/politics/video/trump-interview-tariffs-bloomberg-chicago-digvid)** > > Bloomberg News editor-in-chief John Micklethwait presses President Trump on his tariff plan. Economists have raised concerns that Trump’s plan to implement across the board tariffs on imported goods could raise prices. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/65 "2025-01-22T20:12:38Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > He’d do it in “24 hours” after taking the oath, he said, or even before his inauguration. Now we know why he didn’t place his hand on the bible! That way the clock didn’t start! ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/66 "2025-01-22T20:23:13Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > There is the scenario that the exporting company reduces their prices so they don’t lose the business. How likely that is, is anyone’s guess. I think his SecTreas nominee was spouting this line, either in his confirmation hearing or in an NPR interview, I’m not sure which. If we were the only nation importing from China, we would have a certain amount of strength in the relationship. But China has lots of other potential buyers - EU, BRICS, Asian Tigers, and the Global South. Depending upon the size of the tariffs levied against China, they will make those other countries offerings for Chinese goods more competitive than the U.S. So some of China’s trade will flow elsewhere, and supply-demand in the U.S. will go out of whack - inflation, here we come. Paul Krugman’s Substack (no paywall) has [a posting on China’s surplus](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/chinas-very-bad-no-good-trillion). He’s not opposed to tariffs out of hand - in fact, he says that > Tariffs on China are unavoidable unless China makes major policy changes, but the tariffs should be smart and reflect real policy concerns, not a visceral belief that trade deficits mean you’re losing. Also, even given what I’ve said, 60 percent tariffs are wildly excessive. And since China’s trade surplus is a global concern, we should be acting in concert with our allies, not alienating Europe, Canada and Mexico with tariffs on everyone. Among other things, let’s not forget that Trump basically wimped out on China last time after the Chinese retaliated against U.S. farm exports; that would be much less likely to happen if America was working with its allies, not against them. In other words, by going unilaterally and putting up tariff barriers against our allies as well, the ones who also have an interest in decreasing China’s trade surplus, Trump will make it harder to maintain a united front against Chinese neomercantilism. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/67 "2025-01-22T20:43:16Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, the US probably does buy some things from Russia. Not many, though. Just heard on NPR this afternoon (it was the start of The World, but it might have been the news blip between the programs) that Russian goods made up 0.1% of imports BEFORE the war, and have fallen 90% since the war. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/68 "2025-01-22T20:43:26Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I know you’re joking, but for history’s sake: Yes, it was jokingly said since I believe he mentioned he’d have it settled before he took office more often. > [@](#): > > “Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after we win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled,” Repealing and replacing Obamacare will come in the 24 hours after he achieves peace in Russia/Ukraine. Wait, I think he said that one would take two weeks. Who knew US healthcare was harder than peace in Ukraine? ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/69 "2025-01-22T20:50:10Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > > > This point has been raised umpteen times alone at this board, but I think there’s no one in his inner circle who has the guts to explain it to him. > > We have video of someone attempting just that. It does not go well. Trump actually answers that correctly but doesn’t get the overall effect of what he is proposing. I’ll [quote Krugman again](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/voodoo-trade-policy-comes-to-america): > Finally, about jobs: if and when Trump makes his big tariff proclamation, he will surely claim that tariffs will create millions of jobs. They won’t. In fact, they can’t, because we’re currently more or less at full employment. What tariffs will do is disrupt the economy, causing job gains in some places but large job losses in others. And as I said when writing about [China’s trade surplus](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/chinas-very-bad-no-good-trillion), disruption itself is a cost; unavoidable in an ever-changing economy, but this disruption would be gratuitous, caused by nothing but Trump’s tariff obsession. The factories won’t be thrown up in a few minutes’ time, and once they are built, where will those workers to staff the factory come from? And what will happen to those places where those workers are currently employed, when they give those jobs up and become factory workers? And how many economies of scale will that factory have when it’s selling to a smaller market more constrained by trade barriers with other countries? When you’re at full employment, you have to ask these questions, and the interviewer doesn’t go to that point - at least, not in the clip shown. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/70 "2025-01-22T21:09:15Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Whatever the hell will come of this… Putin laughing his ass off? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/71 "2025-01-22T21:12:39Z")
One of the pardoned 1/6 traitors is already back in jail. > **[MAGA rioter gets arrested one day after his Jan. 6 case dismissed](https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-riot-arrest-2670913716/)** > > If January 6th defendant Daniel Ball believed his legal woes were over after his case got dismissed in the wake of President Donald Trump's mass pardon, he would have been mistaken.Politico's Kyle Cheney reports on BlueSky that Ball was arrested on... ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/72 "2025-01-22T21:15:27Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Well, his “24 hours” to end the war in Ukraine came and went without peace being achieved. I’m sure this isn’t the first campaign promise he has broken, but it is pretty early. Is someone keeping a list? Look he promised to end the war and now he’s told Putin to stop. What more can he do? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/73 "2025-01-22T21:39:55Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > … Obligatory lecture, IMO: > > [King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa (Picador Collection, Band 155) : Hochschild, Adam: Amazon.de: Books](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/King-Leopolds-Ghost-Colonial-Collection/dp/1035038811) > > Probably still the best account on the atrocities in Congo despite being first published more than 25 years ago. Vachel Lindsay put it succinctly even earlier (from [_The Congo_](https://genius.com/Vachel-lindsay-the-congo-a-study-of-the-negro-race-annotated), an otherwise cringe-worthy work whose only other positive quality is his typically compelling use of rhythm & rhyme): > Listen to the yell of Leopold’s ghost > Burning in Hell for his hand-maimed host. > Hear how the demons chuckle and yell > Cutting his hands off, down in Hell. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/74 "2025-01-22T22:16:42Z")
When did the war turn ridiculous to Trump. At the outset, he said it was a genius move > [@Horatius](#): > > Now we know why he didn’t place his hand on the bible! That way the clock didn’t start! And he’ll use that as an excuse to run for president again (assuming there will be another election). ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/75 "2025-01-22T23:34:43Z")
I’ll admit I’ve been (mostly) out of the news loop, but when did Cheeto Benito quit kissing Daddy Vlady’s ass? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/76 "2025-01-22T23:39:36Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Regardless, does the CFSG not yet realize that tariffs are paid for by the American taxpayer? The way he goes on about tariffs, it seems that he thinks that China, Russia, Canada, Mexico, etc., are cutting cheques payable to the United States, in return for the privilege of exporting their goods to the US. I can personally guarantee you that some of his supporters believe this. I had one MAGA tell me that this is exactly how tariffs work. He was all excited how Trump was going to get China to start paying the US billions again and Biden’s horrible economy would be fixed in one fell swoop. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/77 "2025-01-23T00:17:19Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > I’ll admit I’ve been (mostly) out of the news loop, but when did Cheeto Benito quit kissing Daddy Vlady’s ass? As Trump’s threats are meaningless in this case, he’s still kissing Putin’s ass. It’s just a way for Trump to get the rubes to think he’s tough on Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/78 "2025-01-23T01:03:47Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > …when did Cheeto Benito quit kissing Daddy Vlady’s ass? When he started sucking his cock. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/79 "2025-01-23T03:07:09Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > No, all that his tariffs do is make things more expensive for the American consumer, who ultimately pays the tariffs. This [free lin](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/opinion/trump-tariffs-trade.html?unlocked_article_code=1.rU4.pnZf.jCJMRWlBO95H&smid=url-share)k is to a provocative piece in the NYT today that suggests otherwise (in some cases). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/80 "2025-01-23T03:26:24Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I had one MAGA tell me that this is exactly how tariffs work. He was all excited how Trump was going to get China to start paying the US billions again and Biden’s horrible economy would be fixed in one fell swoop. How did he react when you explained to him how tariffs actually work? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=5)