# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/921 "2025-05-08T13:29:06Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Hmmm, ChatGPT is more cautious in its estimate when I asked it to focus on ‘knowingly’ acting on Russia’s behalf: > > > **Probability Estimate (Based on Public Evidence Only):** > > > > Given all of this, if we had to assign a **rough probability** —without classified intelligence—it would likely fall much lower than the original broad estimate. I’d say something in the **30-55% range** that Trump knowingly acted in Russia’s interests rather than doing so unintentionally. > > Still, I can’t argue it! 30-55% is not nothing, probability-wise. And that’s for _knowingly_ acting in Russia’s interests. _Unintentionally_ doing so, being a ‘useful idiot’ as they say, has got to be approaching 100%. Certainly the ‘idiot’ part. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/922 "2025-05-08T13:33:32Z")
I’ll give it this - Grok at least knows how to sound confident. I’d love to see the priors that lead to any sort of reliable probability estimate, much less the source of the dudebro garbage it actual spouts. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/923 "2025-05-08T13:33:53Z")
Yeah, it initially gave me 60% – 80% of witting or unwitting, and I kept hammering it until it gave me a witting version. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/924 "2025-05-08T15:31:57Z")
> [@solost](#): > > _Unintentionally_ doing so, being a ‘useful idiot’ as they say, has got to be approaching 100%. Yes, but from which direction? ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/925 "2025-05-08T15:43:03Z")
That’s agreat article!!! Im imaging magas just arguing all day with the various AIs, and perhaps getting some common sense? Weirdly encouraging. ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/926 "2025-05-08T19:35:45Z")
And I can see whatever supercomputer powers the AI blowing up due to overwork from trying to explain things to the MAGA hoards. You know, the classic ‘does…not…compuuuuuuuuuttttte…’ phut phut phut bang, smoke comes out sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/927 "2025-05-08T20:08:47Z")
I’d say that would more likely to happen to MAGAss brains, except that their input channels have so many filters in place that nothing other than pure orthodoxy gets through. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/928 "2025-05-08T20:30:31Z")
I picture Grok as looking like this. [![](https://i.imgflip.com/208jh9.gif) ](https://i.imgflip.com/208jh9.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/929 "2025-05-09T11:06:37Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I’d say that would more likely to happen to MAGAss brains, except that their input channels have so many filters in place that nothing other than pure orthodoxy gets through. “I am not programmed to respond in that area…” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/930 "2025-05-09T22:32:17Z")
Likely posted elsewhere, but certainly deserving here: > **[Stockholm City Council rejects US Embassy demands to end DEI programming](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/stockholm-city-council-rejects-u-103011932.html)** > > STOCKHOLM (AP) — The Stockholm City Council has rejected the U.S. Embassy's demands that it comply with the Trump administration's rollback of diversity, equity and inclusion policies. Not just Stockholm: > [@](#): > > Countries and cities across Europe have received similar outreach from U.S. embassies, including [France, Belgium](https://apnews.com/article/french-companies-dei-us-trump-de655f8b936d2a53619f8dfef900fa40) and the city of Barcelona, all of which lashed out at the U.S. efforts to expand its anti-DEI policies to the continent. Haha pie in your face, Donald! ETA: > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > …priors… TIL ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/931 "2025-05-11T04:38:08Z")
Jesus fuck. So Trump is "powerless"to get Garcia Abrego back because of national autonomy even though he’s paying them to take these prisoners, but somehow they feel confident “demanding” foreign countries, or at least some of their cities, comply with US domestic policies? Tell us to fuck off please. “Go stick your head up your own ass where it belongs.” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/932 "2025-05-11T11:40:27Z")
Why the Signal Leaks were even worse than you thought: > **[The Signal Clone Mike Waltz Was Caught Using Has Direct Access to User Chats](https://www.wired.com/story/tm-signal-telemessage-plaintext-message-archive/)** > > A new analysis of TM Signal’s source code appears to show that the app sends users’ message logs in plaintext. At least one top Trump administration official used the app. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/933 "2025-05-11T12:50:28Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > So Trump is "powerless"to get Garcia Abrego back because of national autonomy even though he’s paying them to take these prisoners, [snip] Huh. I guess Trump can pay his contractors when he really wants to. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/934 "2025-05-11T15:50:00Z")
They’re being paid by the US government, so the money isn’t coming out of Trump’s personal pocket. That’s the only reason they’re getting paid. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/935 "2025-05-11T15:59:44Z")
True enough. I don’t think Trump used his personal money back when he was a private citizen, say, in Atlantic City, and stiffing contractors that worked on his casinos. ETA: I found this article: [Billionaire Trump Fleeces Workers, Small Businesses](https://usw.org/billionaire-trump-fleeces-workers-small-businesses/) > The terrible tale of Trump casinos in Atlantic City illustrates his relationship with money, workers and small business. His casino companies went to bankruptcy court four times. Tradesmen, small businesses and creditors weren’t paid. But Trump made out like a bandit. And he’s mighty proud of it. > > “Atlantic City fueled a lot of growth for me,” [he boasts](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html). “[The money I took out of there was incredible.”](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html) > > He [told the New York Times repeatedly](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html) that it wasn’t the bankruptcies that mattered; what was really important was that Donald Trump made a lot of money. > > What he said is true: he prospered on the backs of botched casino projects. Even as his three Atlantic City casinos failed, [a New York Times investigation found](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html) _Trump shifted personal debts to the casino companies and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments._ [My italics] Sticking other people with the bill seems like SOP for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/936 "2025-05-11T17:19:24Z")
Speaking of shady Trump business: [Small-time Trump coin buyers have seen their investments collapse](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/08/trump-coin-crypto-investors-wallets/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawKNuT1leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFLdEsyTWFOZ3B0S3R6V1VSAR6a_ch8OdUexpHP7gXgX9R6arU0hir-sPm6_-yXyHzw9IUifwuZW8lPdvhP5Q_aem_m2NbYFTfGxKBUCdNbkGBlg) _Nearly 67,000 crypto novices have pulled out their debit cards to bet on Trump’s meme coin venture, a Post analysis found. So far it’s been a monumental bust._ > Rebecca Davis bought President Donald Trump’s meme coin …[snip]… she knew nothing about cryptocurrency but believed in Trump’s business savvy. He “kind of knows how to make money,” she said. > > Her $TRUMP coin’s value climbed for a few days but has since plunged 85 percent from its peak. Though some coin holders, including Trump’s allies, have [profited handsomely](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/04/24/trump-trump-memecoin-cryto/) on paper from the coin, she is not one of them; her $32 investment is now worth about $11. Yes, Trump does know how to make money in certain circumstances–he extracts it from his supporters and investors’ wallets and puts it into his own. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/937 "2025-05-12T09:14:37Z")
_This is a cross-post from the clusterfuck thread._ And the felon rolls on! This latest bit of news is just too funny. The felon was triggered by the word _woke_, so you should not be surprised by [what he then did](https://www.yahoo.com/news/angry-trump-kills-woke-program-100000690.html). > [@](#): > > # Angry Trump Kills “Woke” Program—and Accidentally Screws MAGA Voters > > The other day, during his intensive daily reading of complex policy papers, President Donald Trump noticed that a government initiative created by his predecessor had the word “equity” in its title. Naturally, this caught his attention. As he appeared to conclude, this could only mean the initiative was designed to help undeserving minorities. > > Which presented Trump with a ripe opportunity to demagogue about supposed reverse racism against white people. As Trump [just announced](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114474136573150113) on Truth Social, he has canceled the program, raging that it’s “RACIST.” He fumed: “No more woke handouts based on race!” > > Except there’s a problem here. The program in question, the Digital Equity Act, contained huge amounts of money for governments in GOP-run states, as well as Democratic ones, to expand high-speed internet access in underserved communities—very much including red states’ rural areas. > > What’s more, every red state government [had submitted proposals](https://www.ntia.gov/press-release/2024/biden-harris-administration-allocates-more-800-million-increase-digital-inclusion-efforts) designed to garner their states large amounts of this funding. These proposals were explicitly designed by these GOP governments partly to serve their states’ rural areas. _There’s more schadenfreude in the rest of the article._ ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/938 "2025-05-12T11:04:37Z")
They can just get/subscribe to Starlink. A nice private organization with no conflict of interest. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/939 "2025-05-12T15:57:43Z")
On the other hand, all of that money invested into $TRUMP coins could earn you a dinner with Donny Tump. A dream come true! [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/buyers-trump-meme-coin-pay-millions-win-dinner-with-president-trump-2025-05-12/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/buyers-trump-meme-coin-pay-millions-win-dinner-with-president-trump-2025-05-12/) ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/940 "2025-05-12T18:05:44Z")
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