# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1041 "2025-05-31T17:49:34Z")
I’m torn about it, but I’d rather have seen Musk giving Trump a black eye. Or maybe better both to each other, but I doubt Trump could even give a 5 year old a black eye, although I’m sure he would enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1042 "2025-05-31T18:07:56Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > There’s [a trope](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WimpFight) for that. Quick little derail - I’m reminded of: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/VDRCpN4OMpM/hqdefault.jpg "Semin fights M. Staal - first slap fight in NHL history") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRCpN4OMpM&t=9) ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1043 "2025-05-31T19:36:50Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > > [@teelabrown](#): > > > > which he says he got from horsing around with his son. > > Ooh, snap! Implying that Scott Bessent hits as hard as a 5-year-old child. I’m sure he thinks all his bros are buying it. The Musk / Bessent confrontation happened in April, so I dint think that’s how Musk got his current black eye. My money is on Steven Miller, because his wife Katie ( who is just as odious as her husband ) quit her White House job to go with Musk to Texas - where she will be working for him in some unspecified capacity - I’m thinking his white supremacy breeding operation needs an Aunt Lydia. Some less reputable internet sources hint at a sexual component to the relationship between the Millers and Musk, although the details and combinations vary. I recommend not thinking about this. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1044 "2025-05-31T20:18:38Z")
I remember that article! “Not since the Three Stooges visited in 1942 have Londoners been witness to anything as hilarious as the recent fistfight between…” ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1045 "2025-05-31T20:32:18Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Some less reputable internet sources hint at a sexual component to the relationship between the Millers and Musk, although the details and combinations vary. I recommend not thinking about this. Yeah, the snerk on the internet is saying that Miller’s wife isn’t going to be working _for_ Musk but _under_ him. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1046 "2025-05-31T20:49:05Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I recommend not thinking about this. Why couldn’t you have said that first??? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1047 "2025-05-31T22:41:09Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > My money is on Steven Miller I doubt that Stephen Miller has the nerve to go mano-a-mano with anyone (even a pencil-necked geek like Elon). ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1048 "2025-05-31T22:52:04Z")
Back in April? Oh. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1049 "2025-06-01T00:48:21Z")
It would be sweet if someone got a video of it and leaked it to the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1050 "2025-06-01T01:02:59Z")
I’m sure as soon as anyone got it on their phone they would’ve been, like, detained, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1051 "2025-06-01T02:13:18Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I doubt that Stephen Miller has the nerve to go mano-a-mano with anyone (even a pencil-necked geek like Elon). The rumor mill suggests it may have been mano-a-mano-a-womano at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1052 "2025-06-01T04:58:57Z")
Pass the brain bleach. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1053 "2025-06-01T16:45:00Z")
🎶 _Muskrat, muskrat candlelight_ _Doin’ the town and doin’ it right_ _In the evenin’, it’s pretty pleasin’_ 🎶 ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1054 "2025-06-03T04:42:58Z")
Trump turns on the Federalist Society. [Inside the split between MAGA and the Federalist Society - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/30/trump-federalist-society-leonard-leo-maga-00378303) > The Federalist Society was the force behind Trump’s third of the Supreme Court. Now, MAGA wants to see the group’s demise. > > Late Thursday evening, [Trump attacked the conservative legal giant and Federalist Society’s former executive vice president Leonard Leo](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/29/trump-goes-after-leonard-leo-and-the-federalist-society-in-fury-over-court-ruling-00375813) — a key figure in his judicial selections during his first term — calling him a “real ‘sleazebag’” in a Truth Social post. “I am so disappointed in The Federalist Society because of the bad advice they gave me on numerous Judicial Nominations,” he wrote. > > It was a remarkable souring on the nonprofit that supported Trump’s push to install hundreds of judges across the federal judiciary and tilt courts in conservatives’ favor. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1055 "2025-06-03T04:44:58Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Trump turns on the Federalist Society. Is it possible that Trump realizes that he was _used_, and that the Federalist Society suggested judges who were supportive of their agenda, and not just Trump toadies? Naaaaaaaah. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1056 "2025-06-03T04:48:08Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Is it possible that Trump realizes that he was _used_, and that the Federalist Society suggested judges who were supportive of their agenda, and not just Trump toadies? So the best businessman and master negotiator got played for a chump? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1057 "2025-06-03T04:53:26Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > So the best businessman and master negotiator got played for a chump? You mean ‘yet again’? ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1058 "2025-06-03T06:24:34Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Is it possible that Trump realizes that he was _used_, and that the Federalist Society suggested judges who were supportive of their agenda, and not just Trump toadies? He’s probably just mad he didn’t get any bribes out of it. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1059 "2025-06-03T13:54:34Z")
More that trump is angry that the Fed Society picks aren’t acting as 100% rubber stamps for his aganda. They still, nominally, try to follow the law. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1060 "2025-06-03T14:33:35Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > So the best businessman and master negotiator got played for a chump? I wouldn’t say “chump” so much as, he realized he needs to care about this, for his own selfish reasons. I’ve said for a while now that Trump’s current administration is split between several different factions, who are content to let the other factions just do their thing, so long as there’s no direct conflicts between their particular individual goals. Like Trump really wants to impose tariffs, and brutalize immigrants, so the Project 2025 guys are happy to let him do that, so long as they can dismantle as much of the current US government as possible. This effect also existed in Trump 1.0. Trump didn’t care (at the time) about the judges. He made mouth noises about it, but since he didn’t care, he was happy to just rubberstamp the options given to him by this group, while he got on with trying to build the Wall. But now, Trump _does_ care. In the last four years, he’s realized he needs judges on **his** side, who will corruptly rule in **his** favor, regardless of the merits of his case. And he’s discovering that a lot of those judges he rubberstamped _aren’t_ those people. So now he’s Big Mad, because he’s discovered this conflict of interest far too late, and he’s stuck with the mess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=54)