# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1361 "2025-07-17T21:26:17Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > Also he only dances with his hands, his legs don’t move. No wonder he has cardiovascular issues in his legs. > > That’s the way I dance now because my knees and balance are going I don’t dance at all. So I’ve solved that problem. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1362 "2025-07-17T23:30:33Z")
Shall I buy [a head of lettuce,](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiajJqAFM6MGrXc6eFfdBMM9OOQYECmcy8x6t3nC0It-7oZ5HKgQGKHSRTl9cQcep4ZtlRNtOT_SQyjUFOXv5Xetig51-9zKd4B_GKU3ebWaoKdmTDqYTyrofQe39A82Pn_gbQHDVBLyHdBHShfv8ZvIxey_GH17KUL0nJkjtTWWaQ98_G9xw/s1850/Screen%20Shot%202022-10-16%20at%2019.22.46.png) an orange wig, and dare to dream? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1363 "2025-07-17T23:45:05Z")
OMG! Are they telling us that our supreme leader is not, in fact, a perfect physical specimen of ideal manliness? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1364 "2025-07-18T00:31:52Z")
He’s an old, sedentary, fat guy. Eats crap only, and doesn’t exercise. I’m not at all surprised; I wish it was something _more_ serious, and I _am_ surprised it wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1365 "2025-07-18T01:14:51Z")
The Lincoln Project strikes again: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LHhYl895P_E/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Not Like Us") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHhYl895P_E) (video is an adaptation of Kendrick Lamar’s “Not Like Us” featuring puppets and the saga of Trump’s recent misfortunes) ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2025, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1366 "2025-07-18T03:03:45Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > No, no, no. You misheard. Chronic _Penis_ Insufficiency. Shhh! The venous insufficiency is Trump’ distraction from his penis insufficiency. I imagine if the “Epstein files” are made public and Trump was banging underage girls, there’ll be affidavits from them how their teenaged boyfriends and partners had bigger dicks and more “swordsmanship” than Trump. That’s Trump’s real reason for not making the files public! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1367 "2025-07-19T05:20:27Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > The utter irony is, if Felon-ONE were to declare, “ **I did those teenage girls, I did them bigly and longly** ,” his MAGAt base would be all “_Yeah! Awesome! He’s da Man!_” They don’t object to rape, they just object to non-white men committing rape; to the extent they outright make up a plague of the latter. They think that women should all be slaves, after all; rape is a virtue, punishing them as they deserve. The Right just objects to men of the inferior races touching “their women” (consensually or otherwise). Thus all those miscegenation laws and lynchings of black men for allegedly looking at a white woman. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1368 "2025-07-19T07:29:49Z")
The Temper tanTrump in the White House sues Rupert Murdoch and The Wall Street Journal over its report on a birthday note to Epstein. > **[Trump Sues Murdoch and Wall Street Journal Over Epstein Report](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/07/18/us/trump-news#trump-sues-wall-street-journal-epstein)** > “This lawsuit is filed not only on behalf of your favorite President, ME,” he wrote, “but also in order to continue standing up for ALL Americans who will no longer tolerate the abusive wrongdoings of the Fake News Media.” The NYT does not mention a sum, I wonder why. The **[Handelsblatt](https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/usa-trump-verklagt-rupert-murdoch-und-seine-medienunternehmen/100142711.html)** in Germany does: 10 Billion US$. I would like to ask Rupert the Morlock how it feels to play the sorcerer’s apprentice at his age. > Trump called it a “POWERHOUSE Lawsuit against everyone involved in publishing the false, malicious, defamatory, FAKE NEWS ‘article’ in the useless ‘rag’ that is, The Wall Street Journal.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1369 "2025-07-19T08:01:57Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > The Temper tanTrump in the White House sues Rupert Murdoch and The Wall Street Journal over its report on a birthday note to Epstein. I think we all knew that was going to happen. Somebody says something that Trump doesn’t like, Trump sues them into bankruptcy, lather, rinse, repeat. I feel that Trump’s suit is groundless; he’s only doing it to cost the WSJ money in lawyers and their time; and like with his construction contractors, they’ll settle; or they’ll pay him off to settle, like Paramount.. At some point, though, Trump is going to encounter somebody who says, “Bring it on!” when Trump launches a lawsuit. That may be the WSJ, but who knows. Whoever will need deep pockets, but Trump will be so wrapped up in such a suit, that he will ignore the rest of the world. Israel will continue to be at odds with Iran, Russia will still be trying to take Ukraine, Greenland will remain Danish, the Panama Canal will remain Panamanian, and Canada will remain free. Trump is so easily distracted, tha — ooh, shiny! Right? ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1370 "2025-07-19T08:21:58Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Trump is so easily distracted, tha — ooh, shiny! Who would have thought that a shiny golden squirrel would look like that? [![](https://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/1920x1080/Aug2023/62377564.jpg) ](https://image.stirileprotv.ro/media/images/1920x1080/Aug2023/62377564.jpg) But if this part of your post > [@Spoons](#): > > Trump will be so wrapped up in such a suit, that he will ignore the rest of the world. Israel will continue to be at odds with Iran, Russia will still be trying to take Ukraine, Greenland will remain Danish, the Panama Canal will remain Panamanian, and Canada will remain free. turns out to be correct, it will be a good thing. And the Guardian’s opinion contributor is also letting some schadenfreude shine through: > **[Trump worked to kill a story about his friendship with Epstein. Now we know...](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/18/wall-street-journal-trump-epstein)** > > The president is reportedly ‘on a warpath’ over a story in the Wall Street Journal – controlled by Trump’s top media ally Remember: The enemy of your enemy is just that, the enemy of your enemy. Not your friend. But if both fight hard and dirty in public, let them. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1371 "2025-07-19T08:23:01Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > At some point, though, Trump is going to encounter somebody who says, “Bring it on!” when Trump launches a lawsuit. That may be the WSJ, but who knows. I checked the tea leaves. I checked the cards. I checked the crystal ball. I checked the palms. I checked the stars. I checked the I Ching. All signs point to: it’ll be Elon Musk. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1372 "2025-07-19T09:36:51Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > … turns out to be correct, it will be a good thing. I hope so! As a Canadian who does not wish to be American, I wish he would ignore us. I’m not alone, most Canadians do not wish to be Americans. Based only on my reading of my friends and acquaintainces. ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1373 "2025-07-19T09:41:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > All signs point to: it’ll be Elon Musk. That was my thought too. Maybe he’ll bankroll the WSJ. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1374 "2025-07-19T11:30:18Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t dance at all. So I’ve solved that problem. 🤷‍♂️ You can dance if you want to. And allegedly Alina Habba is on the way out. She wasn’t a great lawyer and I can’t see Trump burning any capital to save her now. > **[Everyone Hates Alina Habba So Much She’s About to Be Out of a Job](https://newrepublic.com/post/198107/alina-habba-out-of-job-trump-nomination-new-jersey)** > > Trump’s nomination of Habba is ending in a total bust. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1375 "2025-07-19T12:54:56Z")
I have to believe the WSJ knew they’d be sued and made sure they had the goods. If the authenticity of the birthday note can be proven this will be totally worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1376 "2025-07-19T13:14:24Z")
There are several examples in history about libel suits backfiring because the person being sued had the goods ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1377 "2025-07-19T13:26:19Z")
You know, it occurs to me that it might have been Musk who made sure this thing got into the Journal’s hands… ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1378 "2025-07-19T13:50:57Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > … At some point, though, Trump is going to encounter somebody who says, “Bring it on!” when Trump launches a lawsuit. … I’m old enough to remember [Katharine Graham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katharine_Graham) and [Ben Bradlee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bradlee), who stood behind the entire _Washington Post_ staff — not just Woodward and Bernstein — during Watergate (even after John Mitchell’s typically highbrow “Katie Graham … is gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer” comment). Sadly, today’s _WaPo_, _NYT_ &c&c&c will most likely roll over and whine for belly rubs. It would be ironic as hell if Musk turned out to be the hero. Which, as noted, wouldn’t make him one jot or tittle less repulsive, but I’d enjoy it as long as the popcorn lasted. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1379 "2025-07-19T15:29:36Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > There are several examples in history about libel suits backfiring because the person being sued had the goods Who has burden of proof? If the plaintiff says “_I never wrote that!_” but the evidence suggests that he did, does the defendant have to prove the document genuine? If they have the original and can do a forensic analysis, perhaps finding a fingerprint of the plaintiff on it, or some other indication that he probably did write it, that is one thing, but if they are working from, say, a digital image, it becomes much harder to prove.        On the other hand, the plaintiff has to provide sworn testimony that he never wrote it, which could result in a charge of perjury if the document is shown to be genuine – except, SCotUS has effectively declared the plaintiff to be above the law and, possibly, immune to perjury because of the importance of his position.        Some classes of defamation are considered _per se_ damaging, but this one does not seem to fall into one of those classes. Also, the defendant probably has the right to have the case heard before a jury. NewsCorp is based in NY, where the case would probably be tried, and NY juries typically do not tend to break in favor of Felon-ONE. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1380 "2025-07-19T15:55:06Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Who has burden of proof? If the plaintiff says “_I never wrote that!_” but the evidence suggests that he did, does the defendant have to prove the document genuine? I don’t know about genuine but they certainly need to demonstrate that 1) they had sufficient cause to believe that it was genuine, and 2) they hedged enough to cover that tiny last little but of uncertainty. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=70)