# A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 20, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175 "2025-01-20T19:23:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1561 "2025-08-22T01:11:31Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > you think Well, there’s the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1562 "2025-08-22T01:55:10Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > A Medicaid user not opposing cuts to Medicare is still baffling to me. Like… you think that because you’re not 65 yet, you’re never going to be 65? Rightwingers are like that. They oppose any form of aid for the disadvantaged because they firmly believe they will never be disadvantaged. Only women, wimpy liberals and inferior races need to worry about that. Not _rugged individualists_ like themselves. It’s one of the things I recall most from the whole debate over the Americans with Disabilities Act; all the people opposed who were _absolutely sure_ they’d never be disabled, and cared nothing for the people who were. Pointing out that everyone no matter how healthy or rich is just one bad accident away from being disabled just bounced right off them. Needing help is _immoral_ to them. Therefore _they’ll_ never need help because they are virtuous people, and the people who _do_ need help are subhuman scum who deserve to suffer and die. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1563 "2025-08-22T02:10:53Z")
Then imagine the chagrin of ultra-fascistic Julius Evola, pretty much the only person who has ever come out and articulated the extreme program you keep describing, when he fell (while mountaineering to prove his superhuman machismo) and had to spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1564 "2025-08-22T02:34:53Z")
It turns out that reality doesn’t care how proud and stubborn you are. But that’s a feature of the far right; they are _utterly convinced_ that they can make reality bend to their will if they try hard enough. Triumph of the will and all that. I mean, look at all the people - including right-wing leaders - across the world who engaged in COVID denialism, got sick from it, a_nd still didn’t change their mind._ Even on their deathbeds in some cases. Because their _only_ response to anything that contradicts them is to demand that it conform to their will, and when faced with something that they _can’t_ force into submission their toolbox is empty. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1565 "2025-08-22T04:59:00Z")
Correction: I misremembered how Evola got crippled. He got hit by a Soviet shell fragment in Vienna, and he was there because he’d fled Italy when the Allies came, so he fled into the arms of the Nazis. That detail aside, Evola was so hardcore he thought Mussolini wasn’t fascist _enough._ Now certain Republicans like Bannon are his followers. I don’t want to admit to being a doomer, but that’s how bad this is. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1566 "2025-08-22T15:04:10Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I mean, look at all the people - including right-wing leaders - across the world who engaged in COVID denialism, got sick from it, a_nd still didn’t change their mind._ Even on their deathbeds in some cases. I knew a few people who died whose families refused to talk about what actually killed them. The only thing I can compare it to was the 1980s when families would refuse to say AIDS killed a relative or claim it was cancer or pneumonia instead. I did read a statement from a nurse who had a patient dying from COVID who finally asked for the vaccine, but of course it was too late at that point. When my wife’s cousin died from COVID, an anti-vaxxer, the first thing her other idiot cousin said when we arrived for the funeral was, “Just two shots and we probably wouldn’t be here.” Even he knew the vaccine was a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1567 "2025-08-22T16:20:31Z")
I just found out recently that Meatloaf died of Covid. He was anti-mask, and was quoted as saying he’d rather be dead than controlled. I guess he got what he wanted. There was no information about wether or not he was vaccinated. However, he had asthma and something else? I can’t remember, but he deteriorated and died very quickly after he became sick. It’s sad, I like his music and his shows looked like they were a wild performance. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1568 "2025-08-22T17:43:05Z")
I’m not sure where to put a general “let’s laugh at Trump” post, but this is making the rounds apparently. I approve. (I don’t have Twitter, so a Reddit screenshot will have to suffice) > **[https://preview.redd.it/protecting-free-speech-only-matters-when-its-against-v0-...](https://preview.redd.it/protecting-free-speech-only-matters-when-its-against-v0-zvqwdb9zflkf1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e5d443ebdc73ddd5e9f1217cae2aaa914385f3ee)** ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1569 "2025-08-22T17:55:24Z")
> [@Johanna](#): > > Correction: I misremembered how Evola got crippled. He got hit by a Soviet shell fragment in Vienna From Wikipedia: > It was Evola’s custom to walk around the city during [bombing raids](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Vienna_in_World_War_II "Bombing of Vienna in World War II") in order to better “ponder his destiny”. During one such aerial bombardment in 1945, a [shell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_(projectile) "Shell (projectile)") fragment damaged his [spinal cord](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinal_cord "Spinal cord"). He was left [paralysed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paralysis "Paralysis") below the waist for the rest of his life. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1570 "2025-08-22T18:06:20Z")
Guess he found his destiny. What an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1571 "2025-08-22T19:59:26Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > …the 1980s when families would refuse to say AIDS killed a relative or claim it was cancer or pneumonia instead… Lukemia was a Usual Suspect, too. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1572 "2025-08-22T20:58:25Z")
Or, in the case of Liberace, an “all watermelon diet” ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1573 "2025-08-23T21:59:42Z")
Opsie > … I’ve had Republicans in Texas tell me they’re worried [that] instead of gaining five seats, you can have ten competitive seats and you could end up losing seats. [https://www.rawstory.com/texas-redistricting-2673907383/](https://www.rawstory.com/texas-redistricting-2673907383/) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1574 "2025-08-23T22:35:41Z")
I’d be excited but unreliable Rawstory seems to be the only place reporting this. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1575 "2025-08-23T23:06:35Z")
Uh? Raw Story is quoting MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough’s piece where he talks to conservative journalist David Drucker, with a link to the MSNBC video. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1576 "2025-08-23T23:14:17Z")
I’ve read in several places of this concern. They’re giving up a bit of certainty for volume, but ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1577 "2025-08-23T23:19:22Z")
After getting through a hundred ads I see that. I’m trying to find a source other than Drucker for this though. It seems to be universally considered a pretty sure win for Republicans everywhere else I’m looking. And I’m looking pretty hard for corroboration because I **really** want it to be true. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2025, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1578 "2025-08-23T23:51:49Z")
I think they’re counting on Trump being competent. As silly as that might sound. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1579 "2025-08-24T01:49:26Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It seems to be universally considered a pretty sure win for Republicans everywhere else I’m looking. It really depends on voters and how strong the Party holds remains. Assuming all Republicans vote R, it’s a big win for them. But if enough moderate/ reasonable/ notMAGA Republicans get fed up with everything going on, they might hold their nose and protest the crazy. That would put thin margin districts in play. We just need enough people who voted for the economy and expected most of the noise was bs and it would be business as usual to decide they aren’t happy with tariffs and shitting on our allies or cuts to government services or secret police or really any one of the dozens of issues they might find violate their beliefs or inconvenience them enough to say “Hey, stop this shit!” It’s not a given but it’s not outlandish. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2025, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175/1580 "2025-08-24T04:56:32Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > We just need enough people who voted for the economy and expected most of the noise was bs and it would be business as usual to decide they aren’t happy with tariffs and shitting on our allies or cuts to government services or secret police or really any one of the dozens of issues they might find violate their beliefs or inconvenience them enough to say “Hey, stop this shit!” I feel like it’s not at all crazy for this to happen as it happened during the last Trump midterm, and it seems like the conditions will be even worse for Republicans this time around. But I’ve also watched people idiotically vote against their own best interests in 2024 and don’t have faith they won’t again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-3/1013175.md?page=80)