# A Pit thread for Asahi **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944 "2019-02-04T14:14:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/41 "2019-02-04T20:05:33Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Well, damn, I never considered that they could all be serene Buddhist monks. Serene, racist, stupid, Buddhist monks. Ditka, for one, avoids visiting the Pit. That hardly makes him what you’re saying. This is not a fair characterization and I’m not sure your earlier one that these guys think **asahi** is like a poster child speaking on behalf all Democrats is fair either. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/42 "2019-02-04T20:16:07Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > But \*\*asahi \*\*referred to “The Negro”, as a noun, not an adjective, as if those people are all the same to him, with all the same issues and demands and who all have the same place in society (preferably separate if not subservient). That’s probably something far more to be alarmed about than the word itself. Since I’ve already pointed it out to you in the other thread, I’ll have to now say that you’re making a fool of yourself if you can’t see that asahi’s use was obviously parody to _mock_ people (specifically Northam, as he specifies) who he alleges still think in these terms. There are certainly valid reasons to criticize asahi’s rhetoric, and I’ve been among the critics, but suggesting that he’s a white supremacist is simply idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/43 "2019-02-04T20:25:10Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Refresh my memory - when was the last time I mentioned **asahi** as someone who spoke for all Democrats? TIA. You’re asking an awfully specific question, probably for a reason. But you’re also violating one of the basic rules of courtesy: don’t answer a question with a question. But if you’d like to show your record of pitting conservative assholes, I’d love to see it. TIA. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/44 "2019-02-04T20:27:16Z")
> [@Covfefe](#): > > Ditka, for one, avoids visiting the Pit. That hardly makes him what you’re saying. That’s because **Ditka** – whom I think I would actually enjoy hanging out with IRL – can be a real coward at times. IMO, he doesn’t visit the Pit because he enjoys telling the world how dumb liberals can be, but can’t face the music himself. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/45 "2019-02-04T20:29:15Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > You’re asking an awfully specific question, probably for a reason. Of course I have a reason - you made a claim, I was wondering if you could back it up. > [@](#): > > But you’re also violating one of the basic rules of courtesy: don’t answer a question with a question. But if you’d like to show your record of pitting conservative assholes, I’d love to see it. TIA. I think an even more basic rule would be to back up an accusation, but that’s just me. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/46 "2019-02-04T20:41:32Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Of course I have a reason - you made a claim, I was wondering if you could back it up. > I think an even more basic rule would be to back up an accusation, but that’s just me. You know, if you want to know what a shit you are, you can look through your own posts. As a bonus, you won’t have to be bothered by any pittings you’ve done of your fellow conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/47 "2019-02-04T20:45:47Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Even worse, it’s a piss-poor analysis of what Northam’s probably thinking. > > Being on the far left, I’m experiencing the same fun that folks like Sam Stone probably get when doorhinge or WillFarnaby posts. Sometimes you just wish someone would shut the hell up and stop making your side look bad. Yes, you’re one of the cerebral leftists around here. Lol, the images some people have of themselves. You must be an only child. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/48 "2019-02-04T20:48:00Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes, you’re one of the cerebral leftists around here. > > Lol, the images some people have of themselves. You must be an only child. The amazing psychic **WillF** strikes again! Whose mind will he read next? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/49 "2019-02-04T20:50:45Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The amazing psychic **WillF** strikes again! Whose mind will he read next? Read minds? I’m sorry, I just read the guy’s text. Perhaps your lifelong struggle with comprehension and context is coming to a head. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/50 "2019-02-04T20:54:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’m experiencing the same fun that folks like Sam Stone probably get when doorhinge or WillFarnaby posts. Or that they get when he posts. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/51 "2019-02-04T20:55:35Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Since I’ve already pointed it out to you in the other thread, I’ll have to now say that you’re making a fool of yourself if you can’t see that asahi’s use was obviously parody to _mock_ people (specifically Northam, as he specifies) who he alleges still think in these terms. You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/52 "2019-02-04T20:56:37Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Since I’ve already pointed it out to you in the other thread, I’ll have to now say that you’re making a fool of yourself if you can’t see that asahi’s use was obviously parody to _mock_ people (specifically Northam, as he specifies) who he alleges still think in these terms. You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed. If that’s really what he meant, he’d have used a similar word with a lower-case _n_. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/53 "2019-02-04T20:58:04Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Read minds? I’m sorry, I just read the guy’s text. Perhaps your lifelong struggle with comprehension and context is coming to a head. So you read “cerebral” in a post that didn’t include that word? And you read the “image” he had of himself, despite the poster saying nothing about the image he had of himself? And you read about his birth order, despite the fact that he said nothing about his birth order? I just assumed it was psychic ability, since you said a bunch of things about him that he didn’t include in his post. As is your wont – you routinely say things about posters (including me) that have nothing to do with their posts. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/54 "2019-02-04T21:02:27Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed. It was the way I read that post as well. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/55 "2019-02-04T21:03:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So you read “cerebral” in a post that didn’t include that word? And you read the “image” he had of himself, despite the poster saying nothing about the image he had of himself? And you read about his birth order, despite the fact that he said nothing about his birth order? > > I just assumed it was psychic ability, since you said a bunch of things about him that he didn’t include in his post. As is your wont – you routinely say things about posters (including me) that have nothing to do with their posts. In all seriousness, is English a second language for you? You seem to do pretty well forming sentences, but when the author takes a half step away from the literal, you are like a lost puppy. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/56 "2019-02-04T21:06:06Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Perhaps your lifelong struggle with comprehension and context is coming to a head. Zing! Next thing we know, that idiot **iiandyiii** is going to start a thread claiming that Donald Trump is the “peace candidate!” Boy, that would just PROVE that he’s a crank! ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/57 "2019-02-04T21:16:31Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed. > > If that’s really what he meant, he’d have used a similar word with a lower-case _n_. If you are claiming that anyone other than you thinks asahi is a white supremacist, or that the reason for the pitting was his statement of his personal beliefs about The Negro, you are totally clueless. What do you imagine is the relevance of capitalization? Surely if anything that should make it _more_ obvious to the irony-impaired that he was parodying Northam’s views. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/58 "2019-02-04T21:26:35Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I have absolutely no problem with the shit asahi posts, considering I don’t see his posts anymore. I recommend more of you join me in this, which will remove any temptation you may have to feed that troll. Yes - since I plonked him, my stress level has gone way down. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/59 "2019-02-04T21:30:26Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > What do you imagine is the relevance of capitalization? That practice was invented by wild-eyed liberals a century ago as a sign of \*respect \*toward the race. Those intending disrespect continued not to use it, or the proper (Spanish) spelling, either. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/60 "2019-02-04T21:31:41Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > In all seriousness, is English a second language for you? You seem to do pretty well forming sentences, but when the author takes a half step away from the literal, you are like a lost puppy. Ah, of course the problem lies with me. The amazing WillF could never make such a mistake as to misread, misinterpret, or substitute his own preconceived notions in someone’s post! Common, inferior folk like me might just prefer to respond to someone’s words. But those on another level, like your illustrious self, can go beyond mere words into intentions, motives, and even the underlying psyche of the stranger whose words you are analyzing! Truly, your abilities are beyond those of mere mortals like me! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944.md?page=4)