# A Pit thread for Asahi

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 4, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944 "2019-02-04T14:14:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/61 "2019-02-04T21:42:32Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Ah, of course the problem lies with me. The amazing WillF could never make such a mistake as to misread, misinterpret, or substitute his own preconceived notions in someone’s post!
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> Common, inferior folk like me might just prefer to respond to someone’s words. But those on another level, like your illustrious self, can go beyond mere words into intentions, motives, and even the underlying psyche of the stranger whose words you are analyzing! Truly, your abilities are beyond those of mere mortals like me!

Sure, that’s just what a _statist_ would say!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/62 "2019-02-04T21:44:26Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> That practice was invented by wild-eyed liberals a century ago as a sign of \*respect \*toward the race. Those intending disrespect continued not to use it, or the proper (Spanish) spelling, either.

I’m still totally confused about what relevance you imagine this has to whether asahi’s post was stating his own racist views or was a sarcastic parody of Northam’s.

But feel free to continue to make a fool of yourself in imagining that this thread is all about asahi being a white supremacist whose _own_ worldview involves either “The Negro” or “the negro”.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/63 "2019-02-04T21:46:14Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> The amazing psychic **WillF** strikes again! Whose mind will he read next?

“Next”? You mean “first.” He got literally every detail in that post wrong.

Well, no, that’s not fair. Compared to someone like ElvisLives, yeah, I consider myself cerebral. But my problem with asahi isn’t a lack of brains.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed.
> 
> If that’s really what he meant, he’d have used a similar word with a lower-case _n_.

Of course that’s what asahi meant. It’s very difficult to read his post in any other way, especially in context of his other posts in the thread. It was a shitty bit of sarcasm, but obviously sarcasm.

> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Sure, that’s just what a _statist_ would say!

😃

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/64 "2019-02-04T22:05:17Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> It was the way I read that post as well.

And me. **asahi** ’s use of the term was intentional, yes: intentionally used to uncharitably characterize the hypothetical thoughts processes of Northam.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/65 "2019-02-04T23:14:09Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed.

I interpreted it that way too. Seems obvious to me.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/66 "2019-02-04T23:26:49Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> In all seriousness, is English a second language for you? You seem to do pretty well forming sentences, but when the author takes a half step away from the literal, you are like a lost puppy.

To be fair I’m reading a novel iiandyiiii wrote (I’m not kidding, it’s a scifi book I bought through Kindle) so I don’t think this is true. It’s a good read.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/67 "2019-02-04T23:39:12Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> To be fair I’m reading a novel iiandyiiii wrote (I’m not kidding, it’s a scifi book I bought through Kindle) so I don’t think this is true. It’s a good read.

Thanks so much, I’m so glad you’re enjoying it! Please let me know when you finish; I’d love to read your thoughts.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/68 "2019-02-05T01:16:03Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Yes, you’re one of the cerebral leftists around here.
> 
> Lol, the images some people have of themselves. You must be an only child.

To quote Malcolm Reynolds, my days of not taking you seriously are coming to a middle.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/69 "2019-02-05T04:30:19Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You’re not getting much support for that claim here, as you may have noticed.
> 
> If that’s really what he meant, he’d have used a similar word with a lower-case _n_.

It is obviously what he meant, and of course a white male is not going to use the actual n-word. Even Huey Freedman used “Negro, please” in GD.

Heck, the reason “hate speech” is on the table is the use of the word “Negro” clearly being a stand in for the n-word.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/70 "2019-02-05T04:31:46Z")

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Oh, and WillFarnaby views this world through a very weird lens that actually makes me question if his sanity is slipping. Like I’ve said before, he used to make more sense. Now he pushes paranoid conspiracy stuff a lot.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/71 "2019-02-05T05:15:42Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> Your quoted reference sounds to me like a rather heavy-handed attempt at sarcasm, but being this is asahi we’re talking about, you never know.
> 
> But I will support this pitting on the basis of my general annoyance as his semi-hysterical postings about how all is lost and his “I’m-smarter-than-thou” writing style having caused me visual problems due to having rolled my eyes once too often while reading an asahi post.
> 
> Man needs Prozac…and if he’s taking it, up the dose!

I put him on ignore for this exact reason. I couldn’t take the doom and gloom predictions anymore, and his hysteria was making me roll my eyes too much.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/72 "2019-02-05T05:20:18Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I prefer Sapporo.

Bleah, Hitachino Nest Beer, pretty please. (I’ve never tasted one I didn’t like, but pricey. Are you buying? Ehh, who cares? Gimme.)  
Oh, and **asahi** is an over-reactionary nitwit, and has poor choice in beers.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/73 "2019-02-05T05:54:54Z")

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Personally, I prefer Kirin Beer - not because it’s particularly good, but because it has a ki-rin on it, and I’m a nerd.

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**Author:** ![Discordian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@Discordian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discordian)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/74 "2019-02-05T06:45:47Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Personally, I prefer Kirin Beer - not because it’s particularly good, but because it has a ki-rin on it, and I’m a nerd.

I really like Asahi Super Dry. It’s the perfect beer for drinking as cold as possible.

I won’t claim I’m qualified to say whether he should resign, or more accurately I don’t feel like taking a position. Everything is emotionally exhausting enough as it is. I trust the judgment of other party leaders that I also voted for, most notably Kaine and Warner. They think he should be out? So be it. I’m sure they’ve reviewed the evidence and determined the political calculus.

I’m slightly concerned that as soon as Northam resigns the other shoe will drop on Fairfax, and then it’ll be the same circus all over again, and maybe it should be, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a concern politically.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/75 "2019-02-05T07:23:09Z")

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I once had a pair of Asahi shoes. Used them till they fell apart.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/76 "2019-02-05T13:14:53Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> You know, if you want to know what a shit you are, you can look through your own posts. As a bonus, you won’t have to be bothered by any pittings you’ve done of your fellow conservatives.

So you were making accusations you can’t back up. Thanks for the clarification.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/77 "2019-02-05T13:42:17Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> So you were making accusations you can’t back up. Thanks for the clarification.

The accusations nevertheless deserved a full and thorough investigation, didn’t they?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/78 "2019-02-05T15:47:18Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> So you were making accusations you can’t back up. Thanks for the clarification.

No, this is the Pit. I don’t care to put any effort into proving to you why I hold you in disregard.

It’s like if you cut me off in traffic, and I yell out the window, “You’re a terrible fucking driver!” If you yell “Cite?!?” I’m just going to flip you off again.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/79 "2019-02-05T15:50:40Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> It’s like if you cut me off in traffic, and I yell out the window, “You’re a terrible fucking driver!” If you yell “Cite?!?” I’m just going to flip you off again.

Under those circumstances, the driver could just be telling you that he missed the yield sign because it wasn’t in Braille.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pit-thread-for-asahi/828944/80 "2019-02-05T15:55:15Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I interpreted it that way too. Seems obvious to me.

Yes, pretty clearly and obviously so.

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