# A pitting for Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2021, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791 "2021-07-19T01:39:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/61 "2021-07-19T15:11:27Z")
Moron, demented or troll? Perhaps all three. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/62 "2021-07-19T15:13:46Z")
> [@susan](#): > > Typical mail response I must take a moment out of this regularly scheduled pitting to applaud this superb pun-work. 10/10 - would read again. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/63 "2021-07-19T15:15:53Z")
Ignorance and sarcasm mix together like peanut butter and motor oil. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/64 "2021-07-19T15:15:58Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Evidence for the “fucking idiot” hypothesis continues to accumulate at an alarming pace. And yet oddly, you do not cite it. In any case, my three-hour lunch break is nearing an end. I will be back about 4PM ET. I would hate for you to think I am ignoring you avoid my comeuppance. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/65 "2021-07-19T15:19:07Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > His view that gay sex is an abomination before the eyes of the lord Who are you writing about? ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/66 "2021-07-19T15:20:00Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Scientist is just the Atheistic equivalent of Prophet No. Thank you for asking. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/67 "2021-07-19T15:27:53Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > Correct. The Germans did not kill Jews because the German were hyper-religious. > > The Holocaust was a modern, mainstream response to the generally-accepted scientific thinking of that time and place. It was perfectly politically correct to the people who did it. It was aimed at improving society and making the world a better place. He’s not wrong: > **[Eugenics](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/eugenics)** > > Theories of eugenics shaped many persecutory policies in Nazi Germany. Learn about the radicalization and deadly consequences of these theories and policies > [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > But of course our scientific ideas are so much more advanced than the politically-enhanced superstitions of our great grandfathers. That is why it is OK when we lump together all religious people. If we learned anything about various religions, it’s that they are not all the same, however, they are all wrong in the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/68 "2021-07-19T15:29:16Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I just read the thread in question – I don’t know what happened to **Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi** , but he has really become a flaming asshole and disingenuous poster. He was never on my flaming asshole radar before. Yeah, for years he was just “That creepy fuck who keeps a detailed wank list of all mass murders in the US,” but he’s been really letting his bigoted side show lately. Like [casually slipping a homophobic joke](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-android-google-phone/931990) into a random anecdote and then pretending to be all wide-eyed innocent when called on it. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/69 "2021-07-19T15:33:37Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > I AM A RELIGIOUS PERSON! Look at my avatar! I’m wearing a fancy red and gold coat\* and a matching yarmulke! I’d like to apologize, DocCathode. I never looked at a larger version of your avatar, and all this time I thought you were bald. That’s quite a lovely coat and yarmulke. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/70 "2021-07-19T15:33:38Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > > [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > > > Correct. The Germans did not kill Jews because the German were hyper-religious. > > > > The Holocaust was a modern, mainstream response to the generally-accepted scientific thinking of that time and place. It was perfectly politically correct to the people who did it. It was aimed at improving society and making the world a better place. > > He’s not wrong: > [https://www.ushmm.org/collections/bibliography/nazi-racial-science](https://www.ushmm.org/collections/bibliography/nazi-racial-science) The problem is that Nazi “racial science” was _not_ generally accepted outside of Party circles, certainly not by the vast preponderance of reputable science. Intimating otherwise is part of Paul’s science-wuz-wrong-before, so-current-day-science-is-untrustworthy agenda. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/71 "2021-07-19T15:34:22Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > Was the apogee of modern science in the day and the place. Of course it was mistaken. Nowadays our science is perfect. Yessir. Not a chance at all that we are wrong again. Nonesoever. You mean apogee of pseudoscience. Real scientists were persecuted for the nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/72 "2021-07-19T15:34:47Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > Correct. The Germans did not kill Jews because the German were hyper-religious. > > The Holocaust was a modern, mainstream response to the generally-accepted scientific thinking of that time and place. It was perfectly politically correct to the people who did it. It was aimed at improving society and making the world a better place. Bullshit. The Nazis didn’t invent hatred of Jews _sui generis_ - in fact, the Holocaust was nothing more than the logical culmination of two thousand years of European antisemitism. The Nazis learned to hate from the church; all they did was slap a scientific veneer on it. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/73 "2021-07-19T15:36:10Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The problem is that Nazi “racial science” was _not_ generally accepted outside of Party circles, certainly not by the vast preponderance of reputable science. Intimating otherwise is part of Paul’s science-wuz-wrong-before, so-current-day-science-is-untrustworthy agenda. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt that he’s talking about “science” in the context of Nazi anti-semitic philosophy at the time. I mean, the cite I provided gives that context as well. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/74 "2021-07-19T15:38:14Z")
Thanks! There’s also an outline of a heart (over my heart) with the schematic symbol for a light emitting diode in it. It says “Turn it on! Leave It On!”. The back also says “Vade Retro Bucco, Philosophus Naturalis Sum!” This is Latin the SDMB helped me with. It is, loosely translated, “Back off man, I’m a scientist!” ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/75 "2021-07-19T15:45:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Bullshit. The Nazis didn’t invent hatred of Jews _sui generis_ - in fact, the Holocaust was nothing more than the logical culmination of two thousand years of European antisemitism. The Nazis learned to hate from the church; all they did was slap a scientific veneer on it. The then-popular ‘scientific’ idea of eugenics was also pretty influential, and wasn’t invented by the Nazis. It was supported by many mainstream scientists and thinkers back then. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/76 "2021-07-19T15:48:19Z")
So thousands of years of religious bigotry is washed away by a few drops of pseudoscience. Nice trick that. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/77 "2021-07-19T15:50:49Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > > [@RitterSport](#): > > > > I just read the thread in question – I don’t know what happened to **Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi** , but he has really become a flaming asshole and disingenuous poster. He was never on my flaming asshole radar before. > > Yeah, for years he was just “That creepy fuck who keeps a detailed wank list of all mass murders in the US,” Hey, that’s not fair! He also keeps detailed lists of names he finds weird: > [@Weirdest names you've ever heard](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weirdest-names-youve-ever-heard/915747/116): > > I keep a list in my notebook. When the page is full, I post the list elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/78 "2021-07-19T15:51:42Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > “God is with us” was of course the German Army motto. It predates the Nazis. Just checking - did they change their motto after their crushing defeat in the war, when it was actually proven that God was, in fact, not with them? ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/79 "2021-07-19T15:58:58Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > did they change their motto after their crushing defeat in the war Which one? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791/80 "2021-07-19T16:02:20Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Just checking - did they change their motto after their crushing defeat in the war, when it was actually proven that God was, in fact, not with them? Not, they just convinced themselves that it was the Jews and Communists who stabbed them in the back and made them lose, then tried again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-for-paul-was-in-saudi/946791.md?page=5)