# A pitting of Liberal and the Mods that let it happen. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 18, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723 "2007-02-18T17:54:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/421 "2007-02-20T02:21:18Z")
Please pass along my best wishes, happy new year and all that. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/422 "2007-02-20T02:31:01Z")
[QUOTE=Una Persson] NoClueBoy is doing well - he hangs out at my board and other places too. [/QUOTE] Huh. Please tell him this Doper wishes him well and would be delighted to see him if he chooses to return. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/423 "2007-02-20T03:37:03Z")
[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train] I now return your to your regularly scheduled drama fest. Stranger [/QUOTE] Nah, I think the drama is done. It looks like it is time for a limerick or three. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/424 "2007-02-20T03:40:02Z")
**What Exit?** asks for A limerick or three, but **ETF** declines. ☚ ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/425 "2007-02-20T04:07:34Z")
Then how about haiku? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/426 "2007-02-20T04:10:34Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] I can’t really blame them for this. The situation is _so_ ridiculous that there isn’t really a precedent (on this board) for it. If nothing else, Liberal is certainly an original. Had either party blinked, I doubt the mods would have urged them to continue. They’re content to let the parties sort it out, which the parties themselves publicly requested. Unless you want to claim Liberal is mentally incompetent, he can spend his money as he chooses and his “diminishing” is solely his responsibility. Regardless of the outcome to Liberal, I don’t think the SDMB itself has been diminished at all. There are plenty of posters who share PRR’s opinions so the atheism debates won’t stop, though they might be a bit less acrimonious. This bribery incident will simply add to board lore, something the old-timers can use as a punchline: Penis ensues. [/QUOTE] Precedent not required. logic and common sense would have sufficed. Being true to the theme of the board. The board has a poster who bought off another and you think it does not reflect on the board. Ok I disagree. It is not about Liberals money. I have no interest in it. PRR was a baseball fan if I remember correctly and I was looking forward to his opinion on the upcoming baseball season. he was not just an atheist. Any religious question degrades into acrimony ,if it goes on long enough. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/427 "2007-02-20T04:11:48Z")
[QUOTE=Zoe] Then how about haiku? [/QUOTE] Haiku’d you ask me to play With a rhyme scheme some people would pay Me to evermore leave Lest they be so aggrieved That they’d fling slings and arrows my way? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/428 "2007-02-20T05:49:22Z")
What’s the big deal? There’s nobody who should be unhappy about this unless someone offered him $250 to stay and Lib went over the top. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/429 "2007-02-20T06:02:51Z")
[QUOTE=gonzomax] Precedent not required. logic and common sense would have sufficed. Being true to the theme of the board. [/quote] How can the theme of the board cover something unprecedented? Does not compute. Any interpretation the mods applied without precedent (even with it, actually) would be subject to endless bickering, showing only that logic and common sense mean different things to different people. > [@](#): > > The board has a poster who bought off another and you think it does not reflect on the board. Ok I disagree. Me and numerous others have stated it reflects badly on the _poster_, but I find extending this vaguely to “the board” is meaningless. You may as well say it diminishes humanity or scorns us in the Eyes of God. Got any statements from non-members who think this incident makes them think less of the SDMB? Got any statements from non-members who know or care about this picayune kerfuffle? Of course if _you_ want to feel diminished by this, be my guest. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/430 "2007-02-20T06:03:03Z")
To **ETF** Internal rhyme! Blimey! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/431 "2007-02-20T06:16:16Z")
It was all about 500 bucks Traded between these two schmucks. Discussed without mercy Was the big controversy Even Yoda called them both wit-fucks. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/432 "2007-02-20T07:34:02Z")
Yoda never called anyone a fuck…wit-fuck. Take that back! ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/433 "2007-02-20T08:59:17Z")
Liberal is not so coherent His postings make that quite apparent He said PRR if you go I will give you some dough But since you did now I look pretty errant. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/434 "2007-02-20T12:14:17Z")
[QUOTE=Una Persson] NoClueBoy is doing well - he hangs out at my board and other places too. [/QUOTE] Well. Aren’t you … special. Hmmph. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/435 "2007-02-20T12:49:19Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Well. Aren’t you … special. Hmmph. [/QUOTE] People wondered where my homey NCB was at lately, and I told them what I knew. I guess I could have said “Where he is…I cannot say, for verily it is cursed that wild dogs will feast on my entrails should I reveal the dread secret of his whereabouts.” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/436 "2007-02-20T13:35:45Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] How can the theme of the board cover something unprecedented? Does not compute. Any interpretation the mods applied without precedent (even with it, actually) would be subject to endless bickering, showing only that logic and common sense mean different things to different people. Me and numerous others have stated it reflects badly on the _poster_, but I find extending this vaguely to “the board” is meaningless. You may as well say it diminishes humanity or scorns us in the Eyes of God. Got any statements from non-members who think this incident makes them think less of the SDMB? Got any statements from non-members who know or care about this picayune kerfuffle? Of course if _you_ want to feel diminished by this, be my guest. [/QUOTE] Great points **Bryan** , it of course makes almost no difference to anyone off the board. As far as on the board members I wonder if it comes down to how different members view the board. I like the analogy that the dope is a favorite hangout/pub/bar/club and think of the dope as a community. Other view it strictly as a good message board and some view it as a reference source or source of humor. I would hazard a guess that those of us that view it as a community or favorite club are more likely to see it as a diminishment of the community/club and those that view it for otherwise. Personally, this is the only message board to which I post. I only read one other. I think we are the same posters that would not leave for $500. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/437 "2007-02-20T13:52:37Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] I’ve already seen enough posters actually schooled in logic and philosophy roll their eyes at your mile high bullshit to know that what I sense of your ramblings is on the mark. [/QUOTE] Very impressive. I wish I could cite message board posters instead of people like Suber and Plantinga. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/438 "2007-02-20T14:01:52Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] Yoda never called anyone a fuck..wit-fuck. Take that back! [/QUOTE] In Yoda speak, witfuck the same as fuckwit would be, young padawan. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/439 "2007-02-20T15:06:05Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Very impressive. I wish I could cite message board posters instead of people like Suber and Plantinga. [/QUOTE] You’ve got sizzle. I’m sure you’re working on your sausage. But right now, $500 versus some wheezy pseudonymous tonguing isn’t saying “unit shifter” to me. For either deal. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/440 "2007-02-20T15:18:56Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] I can’t really blame them for this. The situation is _so_ ridiculous that there isn’t really a precedent (on this board) for it. If nothing else, Liberal is certainly an original. Had either party blinked, I doubt the mods would have urged them to continue. They’re content to let the parties sort it out, which the parties themselves publicly requested. Unless you want to claim Liberal is mentally incompetent, he can spend his money as he chooses and his “diminishing” is solely his responsibility. [/QUOTE] In the Liberal-p.r.r. fight Bryan says that the mods were all right He points out, quite gentle-ly Liberal’s competent, mentally, But refuses to offer a cite. For $125, I will stop posting limericks here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723.md?page=23)