# A pitting of Liberal and the Mods that let it happen.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 18, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723 "2007-02-18T17:54:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/101 "2007-02-18T21:31:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Khadaji]  
Does anyone want me gone badly enough to pay off my mortgage?  
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Sure, if you live in a refrigerator box. I’ll kick in a dime.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/102 "2007-02-18T21:39:10Z")

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It is proof that children come in all ages. It should have been below members to engage in such childish crap and Liberal should be embarrassed.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/103 "2007-02-18T22:04:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
_:: Perks up ::_

Really? I’m intrigued. Which asshole would that be? If you’re willing to dish but not on the board, please e-mail me.  
[/QUOTE]

And then me, please!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/104 "2007-02-18T22:14:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Oakminster]  
**What Exit?** , buddy, I like you. Don’t always agree with you. Think you’re usually somewhat to the left of my position–but not part of the lunatic fringe. You express yourself well and are a generally pleasant poster. Not gonna hug ya or anything, but you’re ok in my book.

That said, I disagree with you on this one. **Liberal** is not one of my favorite posters. Don’t think I’ve ever crossed swords with him, so I’m neutral as far as he’s concerned. However, in this instance, he’s done a service for the board. **PRR** really didn’t bring anything positive to the table, and I’m glad he’s gone. **PRR** did not appear to be on his way to banned camp, so buying him off was the only way to get rid off him. I’m pleased **Lib** was willing to take one for the team and pony up the funds.

From a practical standpoint, **Red Fury** , **Valteron** , or anyone else that wants to rid the Dope of Oakie…bidding is now open. $500 prolly won’t be enough, but there is a figure out there I’d accept. Message boards are a dime a dozen. Hell, I own one and admin on another. This one is pretty good as message boards go, but it ain’t the only game in town.  
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Thanks, I am not too far on the left anyway, especially by dope standards. It is hard to be a lefty and a Republican after all.

\*\*PRR \*\* was a good poster. He is someone I got to meet once and enjoyed talking to. His baseball contributions were well thought out and second only to **RickJay** for baseball logic even if I disagreed with many of his points. I missed some of the other less worthy stuff he did that **Crotalus** pointed out to me.

I have to admit his last two months had much that was not particularly good posting, but some people took this as an excuse to immediately jump on him no matter what he said or did. I tried to defend him in the train wreck of the other thread, while disagreeing with him at the same time. In his final GD thread, I did not agree with him either. I have a tendency to argue from a middle position so people on either extreme think I am arguing from the opposite viewpoint. I am not sure how to avoid this.

I still think no matter how little you like a poster, the act of buying them off the board is not a good way or honorable way to go about it. These jokes about being bought off are exactly why I was afraid. It cannot be good for the community of the Dope in the long run if incidents like this happen again.

Sorry for rambling. I took a break to put up the border in my daughters room and I still find myself disgusted by what happened in the other thread.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/105 "2007-02-18T23:00:43Z")

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$500 to leave a message board?

This has got to be one of the more retarded things I’ve heard of. What is this? 3rd grade?

Liberal, you’re a **fucking idiot** if you’d rather spend $500 than ignore someone.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/106 "2007-02-18T23:01:26Z")

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and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth; and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore glimmered and was lost.  
I hate to see PRR leaving. He could irritate, but who wants to come here if everybody has the same views all the time. I think this is something that got out of hand, and earlier redirection my have prevented. I’m not going to condemn somebody for making an offer. The moderators are humans, and don’t deserve the condemnation I’m hearing either.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/107 "2007-02-18T23:06:18Z")

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Wait, wait. Two blowhards get into a pissing contest now one can’t talk for two years and the other is out a somewhat substantial sum of money? In the words of Blue Beetle (and Davan McIntyre), [“BWA-HA-HA-HA!”](http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp10252006.shtml) Hoooly shit. I haven’t laughed this hard and in months, which is pathetic, but not as pathetic as what just transpired. Sweet, sweet _schadenfreude_.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/108 "2007-02-18T23:08:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Oooooh, bullshit. Anyone who wouldn’t take $500 to stop posting here is a fucking moron.  
[/QUOTE]  
No, _that_ is bullshit. I don’t need $500. $500 would make no difference in my life. I’ll keep posting to my favourite message board over $500 any day of the week.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/109 "2007-02-18T23:10:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
This is the interesting point that was triggered for me; how attached to reading/posting are you? When your post count is in the ten thousand plus mark, does that mean it’s important to you?  
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Is, or was. I post much more rarely now than I did when I had a desk job with a fast Internet connection and not a lot of work to do. I’m pretty happy about htat.

Even then, though, I would have taken the $500 in a heartbeat. I have no illusions about how my posting here makes the world a better place. I really don’t think it does. And I like a lot of y’all, but I’ve met none of y’all, and if I had to end my posting here, my head’s not the type of head that would spend a lot of time missing y’all. That’s no reflection on y’all, but on me.

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> I think it would be very interesting, as a theoretical exercise, to find out how much leaving would be worth to people. Probably couldn’t make it as a thread - I imagine it would break rules somehow, but it sure would be interesting to see who’d leave for half a K, who for less, and who would find it very hard to quit unless quite a bit of $ were to be at issue.

I dunno. I’d feel weird about opening it up for bidding, but I’d leave for less than $500 for sure. I feel weird every year about spending $8 on this place, as if that’s money I could put to better use elsewhere.

Edit: If other folks would rather post here than have $500, I guess i can understand that as well. It’s just not that way for me, and I certainly don’t see any principled nuance to the situation.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/110 "2007-02-18T23:11:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Anyone who wouldn’t take $500 to stop posting here is a fucking moron.  
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Wow. How incredibly offensive. So, I’m a “fucking moron,” am I? I’m really so glad you’re here to tell me these things. Y’know, between this and your assinine behavior in **Lissa** ’s thread, you’re losing my respect at an exponential rate. In fact, you’ve earned yourself a big “Fuck you” today. Pat yourself on the back.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/111 "2007-02-18T23:12:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Wolfian]  
Two blowhards get into a pissing contest now one can’t talk for two years and the other is out a somewhat substantial sum of money?  
[/QUOTE]  
Ever. He gets his loot in two years, but he can’t post here again ever.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/112 "2007-02-18T23:22:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Rubystreak]  
Oooooh, bullshit. Anyone who wouldn’t take $500 to stop posting here is a fucking moron.  
[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t take the money. I’m hardly rich, but I manage to live within my means. I have no outstanding debts, and I have enough spare cash at the end of the month that I can put some in a retirment account while still having a little left over for luxuries. There are some more expensive luxuries out there I wouldn’t mind having, but if I had to choose between buying an HD-DVD player and posting here, I’ll choose the boards any day. The entertainment value is worth _way_ more than $500 to me.

Does that make me a moron?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/113 "2007-02-18T23:24:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Does that make me a moron?  
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Yes! A big, fat moron! 😛  
Welcome to the club. 😃

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/114 "2007-02-18T23:26:02Z")

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Off topic, but I’m still grumbling about pages 2-4 of [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=408348) thread. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/115 "2007-02-18T23:30:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
No, _that_ is bullshit. I don’t need $500. $500 would make no difference in my life.  
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Can I have $500?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/116 "2007-02-18T23:32:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Terrifel]  
Can I have $500?  
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No, you’d only spend it on candy.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/117 "2007-02-18T23:33:47Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
No, you’d only spend it on candy.  
[/QUOTE]

Can I have it? I’d spend it on scotch whiskey.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/118 "2007-02-18T23:34:11Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
No, you’d only spend it on candy.  
[/QUOTE]  
Who told you about her?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/119 "2007-02-18T23:37:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Harmonious Discord]  
and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth; and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore glimmered and was lost.  
I hate to see PRR leaving. He could irritate, but who wants to come here if everybody has the same views all the time. I think this is something that got out of hand, and earlier redirection my have prevented. I’m not going to condemn somebody for making an offer. The moderators are humans, and don’t deserve the condemnation I’m hearing either.  
[/QUOTE]

I love the quote, but my pitting of the mods is pretty mild by mod pitting standards. I have a disagreement with their decision or lack of in this case and I have posted my reasons why in this forum where we are suppose to address such concerns. I believe **Frank** and **Samclem** will acknowledge my pitting is fairly polite and without a lot of anger.

[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Yes! A big, fat moron! 😛  
Welcome to the club. 😃  
[/QUOTE]  
It seems like a pretty good club.

[QUOTE=clayton\_e]  
Off topic, but I’m still grumbling about pages 2-4 of [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=408348) thread. :mad:  
[/QUOTE]

Wow, yet another thread shitting by Liberal in the same week as this other stuff and he wonders why I think his friends need to tell him to calm down. Perhaps calm down is the wrong term. I suppose I should have said, Liberal’s friends please tell him to stop acting like a braying ass.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pitting-of-liberal-and-the-mods-that-let-it-happen/392723/120 "2007-02-18T23:40:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Wow. How incredibly offensive.  
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wow. You’re easily offended.

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> So, I’m a “fucking moron,” am I?

If the shoe fits.

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> I’m really so glad you’re here to tell me these things.

Someone needs to, apparently.

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> Y’know, between this and your assinine behavior in **Lissa** ’s thread, you’re losing my respect at an exponential rate.

You never had mine, so I guess now it’s even.

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> In fact, you’ve earned yourself a big “Fuck you” today. Pat yourself on the back.

I’m gonna go cry in my pillow now. Go fuck yourself.

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