# A poll for Democrats: Who is your SECOND choice?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 20, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720 "2007-12-20T16:53:12Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/61 "2007-12-24T05:25:52Z")

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My first choice is Kucinich and my second choice is Hillary.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/62 "2007-12-24T07:27:25Z")

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According to [2008 SelectSmart.com Presidential Candidate Selector](http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html) Hillary is my 7th or 8th choice…

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Alan Augustson (campaign suspended) (89%)
3. Dennis Kucinich (88%)
4. Barack Obama (82%)
5. Christopher Dodd (80%)
6. Joseph Biden (75%)
7. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (73%)
8. Hillary Clinton (72%)

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/63 "2007-12-24T17:16:25Z")

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[QUOTE=jackdavinci]  
According to [2008 SelectSmart.com Presidential Candidate Selector](http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html) Hillary is my 7th or 8th choice…  
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1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Barack Obama (82%) Information link
3. Dennis Kucinich (82%) Information link
4. Joseph Biden (79%) Information link
5. Hillary Clinton (78%)

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/64 "2007-12-24T22:40:21Z")

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Before that little test, Gravel.

After the test:

Chris Dodd (85%)  
Obama (84%)  
Kucinich (84%…and also my first choice)  
Alan Augustson (80%…campaign suspended)  
Biden (78%)  
Clinton (75%)  
Wesley Clark (74%)  
Edwards (73%…also my choice of the three frontrunners)  
Bloomberg (73%)  
Gravel (68%)

And at the end, Stephen Colbert (9%)

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/65 "2007-12-24T22:46:07Z")

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I’d be happy with Clinton, Obama, Richardson, Edwards, or Dodd. They do have different emphases, and would go about the job in different ways with different skills, sure - but they’d all get us moving in the right direction again. There is little difference in my levelo of preference between them, and it is NOT a matter of being against any of them.

I do think Richardson has the best record of accomplishment among them, and would do the best job as President, and I’m disappointed he hasn’t campaigned better, but I still plan to vote for him - if he’s still in it on February 5. If not, then Dodd will be out too, and I’ll go with Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/66 "2007-12-24T22:59:17Z")

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Oddly enough, even though I found that test kinda dumb, it did pick my two favorite candidates: Dodd and Obama, in that order.

Still it should have had the question:

What is your ideal candiates position on False Dillemas?

Supports false dillemas  
Opposes false dilemmas

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/67 "2007-12-24T23:03:03Z")

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My personal list ran Edwards, Obama, Clinton. The Presidential candidate selector ranked my candidates this way:

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Barack Obama (86%) Information link
3. Alan Augustson (campaign suspended) (82%) Information link
4. Dennis Kucinich (79%) Information link
5. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (77%) Information link
6. Christopher Dodd (77%) Information link
7. Al Gore (not announced) (75%) Information link
8. Joseph Biden (75%) Information link
9. John Edwards (75%) Information link
10. Hillary Clinton (73%) Information link

Note however, that there’s only about a 10% variance among all the candidates listed. The factor the Selector does not take into account is “ability to win against a Republican candidate.” That’s the reason I ranked them the way I did.

Still, I’d like Obama to win, I would, but my nasty, cynical brain thinks Edwards’ white maleness will score with a lot of voters that wouldn 't go Dem otherwise. The MOR voters don’t want more Republican-ness in their elected officials, but I don’t know if they’re ready for blackness or femaleness, either.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/68 "2007-12-25T21:00:43Z")

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[QUOTE=jackdavinci]  
According to [2008 SelectSmart.com Presidential Candidate Selector](http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html) Hillary is my 7th or 8th choice…

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Here’s how I came out:

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Dennis Kucinich (81%)
3. Barack Obama (80%)
4. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (73%)
5. Hillary Clinton (72%)
6. Joseph Biden (70%)
7. Christopher Dodd (70%)
8. Alan Augustson (campaign suspended) (69%)
9. John Edwards (67%)
10. Al Gore (not announced) (65%)

Although Obama’s my guy, I’d be very okay with Kucinich.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/69 "2007-12-26T03:29:02Z")

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Edwards is my first choice, Clinton my second.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/70 "2007-12-26T06:36:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]  
Oddly enough, even though I found that test kinda dumb, it did pick my two favorite candidates: Dodd and Obama, in that order.

Still it should have had the question:

What is your ideal candiates position on False Dillemas?

Supports false dillemas  
Opposes false dilemmas  
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That’s why I answer “Neither” & put low priority on, & I appreciate that feature.

My result:  
1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)  
2. Barack Obama (82%)  
3. Christopher Dodd (77%)  
4. John Edwards (77%)  
5. Dennis Kucinich (75%)  
6. Joseph Biden (69%)  
7. Al Gore (not announced) (69%)  
8. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (69%)  
9. Hillary Clinton (67%)  
10. Bill Richardson (66%)  
11. Alan Augustson (campaign suspended) (65%)  
12. Michael Bloomberg (says he will not run) (58%)  
13. John McCain (54%)  
14. Ron Paul (54%)  
15. Mike Gravel (41%)

Which is sort of where I thought I was. See, I knew I didn’t like Mike Gravel!

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-democrats-who-is-your-second-choice/430720/71 "2007-12-26T20:55:43Z")

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1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Barack Obama (88%)
3. Al Gore (not announced) (80%)
4. Bill Richardson (79%)
5. John Edwards (75%)
6. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (75%)
7. Christopher Dodd (73%)
8. Hillary Clinton (72%)
9. Joseph Biden (71%)
10. Alan Augustson (campaign suspended) (70%)

Which is pretty close to my order of preference.

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