# A Poll for republicans, pharisees, and wingnuts.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160 "2005-01-22T23:27:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rwjefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@rwjefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rwjefferson)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/1 "2005-01-22T23:27:06Z")

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05.01.22

I read the news: (George ~b) “Vows to End Tyranny.”

For a moment I allowed myself to imagine that it was an Enlightened George; a Statesman; a George Washington, pronouncing these Inspiring Words and Ideas.

Sorry, but George ~b is no George Washington. Something big is missing here. It is King George that holds the sway over this namesake.

I will bet it’s the smarts. ~b knows the Right Words, but there are gaps in his Understanding. The full meaning still eludes him.  
[aside] That is the trouble with dynasties - too much inbreeding. [/aside]

I cannot see that ~b even understands (how can he possibly accept or secure?) the full extent of Our Founding Principles:

> [@](#):
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> All are Equal  
> We Share  
> The Rights of Life, Liberty and Pursuit.  
> The Duty to secure these Rights  
> For All.

Rest assured, although ~b does not fully understand these principles, what he lacks in understanding he more than compensates with Belief.

~b believes in: Discrimination, Prohibition, Abuse of Prisoners. The Bible tells him so.

I hear that he even supports the secret disclaimers in the Pledge of Allegiance.

> [@](#):
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> …One nation,  
> Under [caveat] ~b’s[/caveat] God,  
> With Liberty and Justice for All  
> [caveat] Except Faggots, Foreigners and Heretics [/caveat].

[/rant]

Please respond whether you consider yourself to be enlightened.  
Please respond whether you consider ~b to be enlightened.  
If you consider ~b to be enlightened,  
Please support this extraordinary claim.

Remember:  
The Tyranny of the Majority is still Tyranny.  
Peace through Liberty.  
r~

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/2 "2005-01-22T23:30:42Z")

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[Moderator Hat ON]

This is more of a rant than a debate, so to the Pit.

[Moderator Hat OFF]

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/3 "2005-01-22T23:53:06Z")

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Actually, it’s more of a screed than either, IMHO. And a long journey from conherence to boot.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/4 "2005-01-22T23:55:43Z")

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Er, “coherence,” too.

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/5 "2005-01-22T23:58:47Z")

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Of course he’s enlightened!

…in that he’s bathed in the glow from the fireworks celebrating his proto-cult of personality.

_OH SNAP!_ 😃  
Enlightened my ass.

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**Author:** ![rwjefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@rwjefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rwjefferson)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/6 "2005-01-22T23:58:51Z")

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Really, no one in the BBQ Pit has a clue?

Guess that 'splains it Lucy.

Over and Out

For Now

r~

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/7 "2005-01-23T00:03:35Z")

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No, I’m pretty sure you’re far too deep for us.

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**Author:** ![rwjefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@rwjefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rwjefferson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/8 "2005-01-23T00:07:17Z")

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**Khan** Excepted & Accepted, Welcome Aboard.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/9 "2005-01-23T00:13:19Z")

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Heh, he’s one of yours, **luci** and company.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/10 "2005-01-23T00:29:15Z")

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Could well be true, if coherence is the touchstone. The Tighty Righty line is based on lies, bigotry and pious bullshit. But it certainly doesn’t lack coherence. Sanity, humanity, truth, yes…but not coherence.

You must be so proud.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/11 "2005-01-23T00:30:11Z")

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Can we exchange him for someone else; like getting rid of a christmas gift you don’t quite like?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/12 "2005-01-23T00:31:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Could well be true, if coherence is the touchstone. The Tighty Righty line is based on lies, bigotry and pious bullshit. But it certainly doesn’t lack coherence. Sanity, humanity, truth, yes…but not coherence.
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> You must be so proud.

Their message stinks! But it’s communicated clearly…I give it a 5/10…

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/13 "2005-01-23T00:33:48Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Can we exchange him for someone else; like getting rid of a christmas gift you don’t quite like?

Ya, but don’t expect much. You ain’t getting a **Grapist** for a **rwjefferson** , that’s for sure…

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**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/14 "2005-01-23T00:41:20Z")

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**rwjefferson** , you might want to re-think your use of the word “Pharisees” to connote ignorance or craziness. It really has neither implication when used properly.

Otherwise, rant on if it makes you happy. Frankly, although I think “W” sucks eggs, I think this whole subject is both long-since beaten to death and pointless to puruse for the ka-zillionth time on this board.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/15 "2005-01-23T00:42:48Z")

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**rwjefferson** , could you, um, not help? We’d all really appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/16 "2005-01-23T00:51:38Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Heh, he’s one of yours, **luci** and company.

I suspect he’s all his own, frankly.

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/17 "2005-01-23T00:53:48Z")

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Why the ~ in front of b? Or the brackets around it, for that matter?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/18 "2005-01-23T00:54:15Z")

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Libertarian. Definitely libertarian.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/19 "2005-01-23T00:54:36Z")

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> [@Khan](#):
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> Why the ~ in front of b? Or the brackets around it, for that matter?

You _sooo_ obviously not enlightened, ~k.

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**Author:** ![rwjefferson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@rwjefferson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rwjefferson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-for-republicans-pharisees-and-wingnuts/286160/20 "2005-01-23T01:01:27Z")

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> [@Khan](#):
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> Why the ~ in front of b? Or the brackets around it, for that matter?

It is pronounced and translated as Duh, followed by the b pronounced “bya”. As in Dubya.

Duh just seems to be an appropriate name/descriptor for him.  
The ~ after the r signifies that I am too lazy to type: wjefferson.

r~

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