# A Poll on Biden **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 16, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946 "2020-04-16T20:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/201 "2020-07-12T02:09:06Z")
The ACLU has a new and much better slogan: “Divest and Reinvest” > **[Black Communities Cannot Wait Any Longer. The Time to Divest Is Now. | News...](https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/black-communities-can-not-wait-any-longer-the-time-to-divest-is-now?utm_medium=pm&utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=nat-dig-pm-awr-int&utm_content=fb-social-policing-msg20200710_mod_1A&initms_aff=nat&initms_chan=pm&initms=nat-dig-pm-awr-int-fb-social-policing-msg20200710_mod_1A&ms_aff=nat&ms_chan=pm&ms=nat-dig-pm-awr-int-fb-social-policing-msg20200710_mod_1A&utm_term=pm-6198322592995-6198322592395&fbclid=IwAR1ACPke2GadLi2hRbQRFVHZGSxORTV7UvClzHaC0sTHtTn8mgtK4XYZQFQ)** > > For years, Black activists and organizations like the Movement for Black Lives have been calling for the reckoning we now see in the streets, and we have a responsibility as a nation to meet their call. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/202 "2020-07-12T21:30:56Z")
Nice to see Biden ahead in a Texas Poll. | Race/Topic | Poll | Results | Spread | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Florida: Trump vs. Biden | CBS News/YouGov | Biden 48, Trump 42 | Biden +6 | | Arizona: Trump vs. Biden | CBS News/YouGov | Biden 46, Trump 46 | Tie | | Texas: Trump vs. Biden | CBS News/YouGov | Trump 46, Biden 45 | Trump +1 | | Texas: Trump vs. Biden | Dallas Morning News | Trump 43, Biden 48 | Biden +5 | | Georgia: Trump vs. Biden | OAN/Gravis | Trump 48, Biden 45 | Trump +3 | ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/203 "2020-07-12T22:02:03Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The ACLU has a new and much better slogan: “Divest and Reinvest” > [Black Communities Cannot Wait Any Longer. The Time to Divest Is Now. | ACLU](https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/black-communities-can-not-wait-any-longer-the-time-to-divest-is-now/?utm_medium=pm&utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=nat-dig-pm-awr-int&utm_content=fb-social-policing-msg20200710_mod_1A&initms_aff=nat&initms_chan=pm&initms=nat-dig-pm-awr-int-fb-social-policing-msg20200710_mod_1A&ms_aff=nat&ms_chan=pm&ms=nat-dig-pm-awr-int-fb-social-policing-msg20200710_mod_1A&utm_term=pm-6198322592995-6198322592395&fbclid=IwAR1ACPke2GadLi2hRbQRFVHZGSxORTV7UvClzHaC0sTHtTn8mgtK4XYZQFQ) Yeah, that’s better. Rhymes, too, which is good for the street chanting. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/204 "2020-07-13T00:41:21Z")
Yep. And it is a great idea too- not just cutting budgets, but using the $ in better ways. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/205 "2020-07-13T02:04:29Z")
And, for some, it evokes pressure in the 1980s (e.g.) for corporations, universities, etc. to divest from South Africa…and so makes a subtle allusion to the unjust, racialized law enforcement under apartheid (I’m not saying they’re “the same,” mind you). ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/206 "2020-07-13T15:55:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > For example, if the slogan that caught on had been “Black Lives Matter Too,” That’s harder to chant though 🙂. ACLU using Divest and Reinvest is good because of its chant-a-bility. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/207 "2020-07-13T16:22:58Z")
I saw that video two months ago., even before the Tara Reade accusations. Pedo Joe is already a failed meme. If Trump wants to make some slander against Biden actually stick, it has to be something that hasn’t already been a credible accusation against The Donald. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/208 "2020-07-14T02:49:15Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > > [@Sherrerd](#): > > > > For example, if the slogan that caught on had been “Black Lives Matter Too,” > > That’s harder to chant though 🙂. ACLU using Divest and Reinvest is good because of its chant-a-bility. “Divest and Reinvest” is six syllables and “Black Lives Matter Too” is five. BLACK LIVES MATTer TOO! (four counts). Easy to chant. (Not that the change will be made; a change would devastate the t-shirt industry! 😲 ) . . . . > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > If Trump wants to make some slander against Biden actually stick, it has to be something that hasn’t already been a credible accusation against The Donald. What’s left? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/209 "2020-07-14T03:08:00Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > “Divest and Reinvest” is six syllables and “Black Lives Matter Too” is five. > BLACK LIVES MATTer TOO! (four counts). Easy to chant. (Not that the change will be made; a change would devastate the t-shirt industry! 😲 ) Try saying it out loud in chant. Black Lives Matter Too is pretty awkward and has no real flow. Ending on a ‘too’ ruins it. Divest and Reinvest works because you can basically separate Divest And & Reinvest (with an emphasis on the Re). Like “This is What Democracy Looks Like” it’s long but had a nice flow for an effective protest chant. (If you want to change BLM, Black Lives Also Matter has a better flow than a Black Lives Matter Too) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/210 "2020-07-14T03:16:24Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > (If you want to change BLM, Black Lives Also Matter has a better flow than a Black Lives Matter Too) Seems like a matter (!) of opinion. As I said, four counts: _Black_ _Lives_ _Matt_er _Too_! One two three four! But, Black Lives ALSO Matter would be just as good as BLMT from the standpoint of foiling the right’s cynical attempts to misrepresent the movement. It would do the job of making their shenanigans work less well. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/211 "2020-07-14T03:31:35Z")
Of course just having it as the superior sounding Black Lives Matter ended up winning out in the end. Having the Matter at the end, fwiw allows for a greater emphasis at the end of the slogan while also sounding more pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/212 "2020-07-14T06:36:46Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > > > If Trump wants to make some slander against Biden actually stick, it has to be something that hasn’t already been a credible accusation against The Donald. > > What’s left? Bestiality? Certainly they can come up with video of Biden frenching Lassie if they try really hard. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/213 "2020-07-14T22:37:39Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Bestiality? Certainly they can come up with video of Biden frenching Lassie if they try really hard. I think we can assume that someone, in some basement, is working hard to make this sort of deep-fake propaganda. That basement may be in the USA or it may be in Pyongyang or Moscow…but somewhere, someone is working the pixels. Doesn’t seem likely to be found plausible, though. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/214 "2020-07-14T23:10:10Z")
The Gravis Poll for Florida has Biden up by 10%! Woot! ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/215 "2020-07-15T15:21:21Z")
Flood of polls today: | **Race** /Topic | **Poll** | **Results** | **Spread** | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | General Election: Trump vs. Biden | Economist/YouGov | Biden 49, Trump 40 | Biden +9 | | General Election: Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D)\* | Biden 51, Trump 41 | Biden +10 | | **North Carolina** : Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Biden 47, Trump 46 | Biden +1 | | **Florida** : Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Biden 50, Trump 43 | Biden +7 | | **Pennsylvania** : Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Biden 50, Trump 42 | Biden +8 | | **Michigan** : Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Biden 48, Trump 42 | Biden +6 | | **Wisconsin** : Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Biden 48, Trump 42 | Biden +6 | | **Arizona** : Trump vs. Biden | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Biden 51, Trump 45 | Biden +6 | | **Texas** : Trump vs. Biden | OAN/Gravis | Trump 46, Biden 44 | Trump +2 | | **Pennsylvania** : Trump vs. Biden | Monmouth | Biden 53, Trump 40 | Biden +13 | | Arizona Senate - McSally vs. Kelly | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Kelly 52, McSally 45 | Kelly +7 | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | North Carolina Senate - Tillis vs. Cunningham | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Cunningham 49, Tillis 42 | Cunningham +7 | | Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Peters 50, James 43 | Peters +7 | | President Trump Job Approval | CNBC/Change Research (D) | Approve 43, Disapprove 57 | Disapprove +14 | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | President Trump Job Approval | Politico/Morning Consult | Approve 41, Disapprove 56 | Disapprove +15 | | President Trump Job Approval | Rasmussen Reports | Approve 48, Disapprove 50 | Disapprove +2 | | President Trump Job Approval | Economist/YouGov | Approve 41, Disapprove 56 | Disapprove +15 | ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/216 "2020-07-15T18:20:24Z")
Thank you! The last column usually makes me smile these days. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/217 "2020-07-15T19:44:52Z")
Putting the latest poll averages from 538 into the [270towin.com](http://270towin.com) map, I gave Biden every state he was currently winning by more than 7% (i.e. 7.1% and higher) and gave Trump every other state. Biden wins with 279 EV. Loooooong way to go, but a full 7% cushion at this stage is heartening. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/218 "2020-07-23T12:45:02Z")
Nice to Texas for Biden, though the number is too small to mean anything. | Race/Topic (Click to Sort) | Poll | Results | Spread | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | General Election: Trump vs. Biden | The Hill/HarrisX | Biden 45, Trump 38 | Biden +7 | | General Election: Trump vs. Biden | Rasmussen Reports | Biden 47, Trump 45 | Biden +2 | | General Election: Trump vs. Biden | Economist/YouGov | Biden 48, Trump 41 | Biden +7 | | Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden | Rasmussen Reports | Biden 51, Trump 46 | Biden +5 | | Ohio: Trump vs. Biden | Rasmussen Reports | Biden 50, Trump 46 | Biden +4 | | **Texas** : Trump vs. Biden | Quinnipiac | Trump 44, Biden 45 | Biden +1 | ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/219 "2020-07-23T19:02:33Z")
**Texas**?!? 😱 OMG, if Texas is in play, that means the GOP has to spend millions of $ there to keep it in line, this is great news. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/220 "2020-07-23T23:58:54Z")
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