# A Poll on Biden **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 16, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946 "2020-04-16T20:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/81 "2020-04-21T00:56:56Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Followup question, how far down the list was Biden for you? > It appears he was about 7th for me. Sanders, Warren, Mayor Pete, Harris, Gillibrand & Bloomberg were all ahead of him. > > \*\*Here is the full list \*\*I think: > Sanders, Gabbard, Warren, Bloomberg, Klobuchar, > Buttigieg, Steyer, Patrick, Yang, Bennet, > Delaney, Booker, Williamson, Castro, Harris, > Bullock, Sestak, Messam, O’Rourke, Ryan, > de Blasio, Gillibrand, Moulton, Inslee, Hickenlooper, > Swalwell, Ojeda Hickenlooper Bullock Yang Klobuchar Bennet Then Biden ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/82 "2020-04-21T01:22:06Z")
Definitely he wasn’t in my top three, probably wasn’t in my top five. I was absolutely in favor of Klobuchar, Buttegieg, and Booker over him, likely Gillibrand and Bullock too, and maybe Harris and maybe a couple of others. Not the first time my top choice(s) didn’t get the nomination. I’m sure it won’t be the last. That said, he will most certainly get my vote in November. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/83 "2020-04-21T22:55:45Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I knew that would pop up definitionally, but talk to him, see how he functions. It’s like my mom - born in late 44 - telling me she’s not a boomer despite her tye-die wearing, hippy and disco ways. All the people we think of when we think of The Sixties were Silents. (Not very, I know!) The Beatles were born between 1940 and 1943. Dylan, 1941. Grace Slick, 1939. Janis, 1943. Jimi Hendrix, 1942. Jim Morrison, 1943. Abbie Hoffman, 1936. The list goes on. Sounds to me like your mom’s crowd. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/84 "2020-04-23T17:21:05Z")
```auto **Race/Topic** **Poll **** Results ****Spread** Florida: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 46, Trump 42 Biden +4 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 50, Trump 42 Biden +8 Michigan: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 49, Trump 41 Biden +8 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 48, Trump 42 Biden +6 Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters FOX News Peters 46, James 36 Peters +10 President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 46, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +5 President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 44, Disapprove 55 Disapprove +11 President Trump Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 43, Disapprove 54 Disapprove +11 President Trump Job Approval Politico/Morning Consult Approve 44, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +7 ``` Bonus is a Dem Senate Candidate is well ahead in Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/85 "2020-04-23T19:34:52Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > In many ways except his age, he was the candidate with the best chance to win. His rust-belt appeal to flip back those states Trump won over Hillary is very strong. > > His appeal to African-Americans is very strong, stronger than I thought based on the large turn out for him in the primaries and polls from that community. > > Then the sadly small turnout of the youth vote for Sanders showed that his candidacy was weaker than I thought. Sanders of course also suffered from age. > > Finally Biden plays well with Seniors and may well take Florida & Arizona, this would be a big set-back for Trump. Also Sanders may scare off college educated whites in the suburbs who find the GOPs authoritarianism, racism and rejection of science scary since they find Sanders desire to implement radical change too much. Biden is less threatening to them. in a lot of ways, Biden isn’t threatening to a lot of swing voters (rural whites, college educated whites in the suburbs) which is good. Hillary was threatening (she was a smart, independent woman with a 20 year smear campaign behind her) and it cost her a few million votes that hopefully Biden will pick up. 80% of Sanders supporters have already said they’d support Biden. I don’t know if he can get that number up to 85-90% or so, but hopefully he can. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/86 "2020-04-24T13:21:06Z")
Another good news poll. From Fox News, Biden 46 Trump 43 in Florida. Biden has really pulled ahead in the most important swing state. Florida and almost any other swing state gets Biden elected by the Electoral College. Please let this momentum keep growing. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/87 "2020-04-25T00:28:19Z")
Good news, a poll found that voters age 18-29 support Biden over Trump by about the same margins they would support Sanders over Trump. [https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-04-23/young-voters-solidly-favor-joe-biden-over-donald-trump-poll](https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-04-23/young-voters-solidly-favor-joe-biden-over-donald-trump-poll) > [@](#): > > The survey, the 39th in the IOP’s biennial poll of young Americans, found that among likely voters, presumptive Democratic nominee Biden has 60% support, compared to 30% for Trump. Had Sanders been the nominee, the poll found, he would be ahead of Trump with 62% support, compared to 31% for the incumbent president. > > Further, Biden captures 85% support among the group categorized as “engaged progressives,” the most liberal segment of young voters, the survey found. That’s a better showing than Biden has among other segments, including the “center-left,” in which 68% prefer Biden to 11% for Trump. Among “multicultural moderates,” 51% favor Biden compared to 36% who prefer Trump. In the pro-Trump “MAGA gen,” named for the president’s “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan, 80% favor Trump compared to 9% who prefer Biden. The so-called “disengaged” are divided on their choice for president, with Biden and Trump each getting 35% support. Hopefully they show up to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Warm\_blood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Warm\_blood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Warm_blood)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/88 "2020-04-25T16:20:50Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > For fuck’s sake, man. I’m as pro-gun as it gets on this board, particularly as it pertains to the “assault weapons” issue. [Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15910237&postcount=117) [examples](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15913206&postcount=184) [I can](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15913240&postcount=185) [list](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11898283&postcount=194) [hundreds](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21855615&postcount=79) [more.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=106497) > > Giving up your entire country for the sake of some small hypothetical restriction on guns is insane. This man is the essence of corruption, under the control of our #1 geopolitical adversary, systematically dismantlingly United States diplomatic and soft power throughout the world, ruining our reputation around the world, domestic faith in our country, destroying our institutions, and basically wrecking our country worse than any enemy could. > > Even if you want to say “I need to keep my guns to be able to fight against a tyrant like Trump”, then first FIGHT TRUMP at the ballot. Besides which, “our” pro-gun brothers who claim to want to fight tyranny, where are they now? Trump said his “authority is total” and he fucking acts like it. Are they stocking up and preparing to fight a fucking insurgency against this tyrant? No, they’re fucking cheering him on. Right wing anti-tyranny gun extremism is a sham. [Not because it isn’t possible](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=198939) for an armed populace to conduct an effective insurgency against a modern military, but because the people who claim to be prepared for such an incident are among the greatest supporters of the tyrant. > > You’re refusing to cast your vote to fight actual tyranny, in a way that substantially matters right now, so that you could maintain your guns for an unlikely fight against some hypothetical fight against future tyranny that will never actually come because it turns out that most of the people that share your view on this are on the side of tyranny. > > I, as a completely certified “gun nut” gun advocate, would never sell out our entire country for what will end up being some minor concessions on guns or nothing, as given the demographics of the country and more pressing matters, gun control is not likely to be a big issue on the table in the immediate future. If you love this country more than you love guns, neither should you. > > And we’re not talking about “choose between your country and your guns”, because total gun bans are not on the agenda. We’re talking about saving your country vs some possible hypothetical minor action on guns. This is a trivially easy call, and you are derelict in your duty as an American to sit this one out because of this issue. Wow, I never thought I’d want to make out with a gun nut before. That’s how beautiful this post is. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/89 "2020-05-07T17:24:51Z")
**Race** /Topic \*\*Poll \*\*\*\*Results \*\ ***Spread** General Election: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth Biden 50, Trump 41 \*\*Biden \*\*+9 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 46, Trump 42 \*\*Biden \*\*+4 General Election: Trump vs. Biden CNBC Biden 47, Trump 44 \*\*Biden \*\*+3 Connecticut: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 56, Trump 33 \*\*Biden \*\*+23 New Jersey: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 54, Trump 35 \*\*Biden \*\*+19 New York: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 55, Trump 32 \*\*Biden \*\*+23 President Trump Job Approval CNBC Approve 46, Disapprove 54 **Disapprove** +8 President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 46, Disapprove 51 \*\*Disapprove \*\*+5 President Trump Job Approval **Rasmussen Reports** Approve 49, Disapprove 49 Tie President Trump Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 45, Disapprove 53 \*\*Disapprove \*\*+8 President Trump Job Approval Politico/Morning Consult Approve 42, Disapprove 52 \*\*Disapprove \*\*+10 Direction of Country Economist/YouGov Right Direction 32, Wrong Track 56 Wrong Track +24 Direction of Country Politico/Morning Consult Right Direction 35, Wrong Track 65 Wrong Track +30 Direction of Country Reuters/Ipsos Right Direction 31, Wrong Track 57 Wrong Track +26 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/90 "2020-05-07T18:03:48Z")
May the trends continue! ---
**Author:** ![Sdowiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Sdowiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sdowiat)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/91 "2020-05-09T16:12:27Z")
So obviously these planned votes are very skewed away from Trump and not anywhere near a countrywide “Random Sampling”. I’m NOT asking why that is so here, but rather I’m asking- Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/92 "2020-05-09T16:41:27Z")
> [@Sdowiat](#): > > So obviously these planned votes are very skewed away from Trump and not anywhere near a countrywide “Random Sampling”. I’m NOT asking why that is so here, but rather I’m asking- Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment? Wrong interpretation, I suspected that Biden was only a small minority of the posters first choice and I was trying to confirm it here and at GB. You’re reading something completely different out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Sdowiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Sdowiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sdowiat)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/93 "2020-05-10T00:54:58Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Wrong interpretation, I suspected that Biden was only a small minority of the posters first choice and I was trying to confirm it here and at GB. You’re reading something completely different out of it. Ok… buy why not answer the queston? Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/94 "2020-05-10T00:59:08Z")
> [@Sdowiat](#): > > Ok… buy why not answer the queston? Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment? No poll on a message board is a measure of countrywide sentiment. Yet the feature is offered on many boards. It’s offered because it’s popular. Possibly people like to get an idea of the reactions and views of their fellow posters. Why would that be a problem? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/95 "2020-05-10T03:00:33Z")
Fun control is a violation of the pursuit of happiness, dagnabbit. I did not see this poll before, but I would have picked the first option, Biden as first choice. He’s been my first choice since day one. Most likely to trounce Chump, and anyone good enough for Obama is good enough for me. ---
**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/96 "2020-05-10T06:43:29Z")
Also didn’t see the poll. Biden wouldn’t have been my 10th choice (Warren, Inslee, Sanders (my actual vote), then roughly left to right), but he’ll be my vote on November whatever-th if he’s on the ballot. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/97 "2020-05-10T13:04:45Z")
> [@Sdowiat](#): > > Ok… buy why not answer the queston? Of what value is this to us since it’s not a real measurement of countrywide sentiment? It is probably no value to you, but I explained the value to me. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/98 "2020-05-10T14:10:23Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > **Race** /Topic \*\*Poll \*\*\*\*Results \*\ ***Spread** > General Election: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth Biden 50, Trump 41 \*\*Biden \*\*+9 > General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 46, Trump 42 \*\*Biden \*\*+4 > General Election: Trump vs. Biden CNBC Biden 47, Trump 44 \*\*Biden \*\*+3 > Connecticut: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 56, Trump 33 \*\*Biden \*\*+23 > New Jersey: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 54, Trump 35 \*\*Biden \*\*+19 > New York: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 55, Trump 32 \*\*Biden \*\*+23 > President Trump Job Approval CNBC Approve 46, Disapprove 54 **Disapprove** +8 > President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 46, Disapprove 51 \*\*Disapprove \*\*+5 > President Trump Job Approval **Rasmussen Reports** Approve 49, Disapprove 49 Tie > President Trump Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 45, Disapprove 53 \*\*Disapprove \*\*+8 > President Trump Job Approval Politico/Morning Consult Approve 42, Disapprove 52 \*\*Disapprove \*\*+10 > Direction of Country Economist/YouGov Right Direction 32, Wrong Track 56 Wrong Track +24 > Direction of Country Politico/Morning Consult Right Direction 35, Wrong Track 65 Wrong Track +30 > Direction of Country Reuters/Ipsos Right Direction 31, Wrong Track 57 Wrong Track +26 Not to pee on anyone’s parade, but one thing we learned from the last election is that state polling matters, and there’s unfortunately a dearth of good state polling data. Additionally, voter enthusiasm matters, and this is where it’s going to be really interesting to watch. If you compare Trump against Biden, Trump has the obvious enthusiasm edge. But if you compare the intensity of the pro-Trump vote and the anti-Trump vote, then that is an obvious minus for Trump. Moreover, Biden is not the radioactive candidate that Hillary was. Yes, some of the hardcore Bernie Bros have the same level of animus toward an establishment candidate, but unlike 2016, Trump is not an imagined threat, but a real one and people want his ass out. So that works for Biden. Further still, the Republican party as a brand has very narrow appeal, even narrower than it did in 2016. For Republicans to win, they have to do two things: 1. Their increasingly fragile core has to hold, and it probably has some cracks that need to be patched up quickly. 2. They have to find ways to really make Biden unappealing to the point of being a toxic candidate. That’s going to be hard to do. Not impossible, but difficult, especially with the White House having to devote much of its attention to the current pandemic and economic crisis. ---
**Author:** ![str8cashhomie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7cd45c/32.png) [@str8cashhomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/str8cashhomie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/99 "2020-05-10T16:04:51Z")
The only candidates I liked less than Biden in the primary were Bloomberg and Gabbard. There were a few of the people who never got any traction that I didn’t really know enough about to rate above or below Biden, but all the other major ones I put above him. If it came down to Warren v. Biden I would’ve had a tough time, because Warren is my absolute top pick for the White House and my basement pick for electability, whereas Biden is probably the most electable but I had a huge problem with him never dissenting from Obama’s participation in both our and Saudi Arabia’s war crimes in the Middle East (I also don’t think this election truly had an Obama that really was significantly more electable than anyone else so it wasn’t a prohibitive factor in my decision). I think I would’ve come down on Biden because I still think Trump is an existential threat to the country, which is why even though I have major problems with Biden it’s not going to feel like a “I have to hold my nose” type election - the choice is still obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/100 "2020-05-10T19:09:23Z")
Biden’s polling advantage is the steadiest in a race with an incumbent running since at least 1944: [Biden's lead is the steadiest on record | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/10/politics/biden-polling/index.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946.md?page=6)