# A Poll on Biden **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 16, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946 "2020-04-16T20:20:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/121 "2020-05-17T15:43:51Z")
> **[Bernie Sanders supporters reluctantly turn to Joe Biden, fueled by their...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/05/17/joe-biden-hopes-win-over-more-bernie-sanders-voters-beat-trump/5182446002/)** > > In 2016, 12% of Bernie Sanders supporters backed Donald Trump in the general election. Polls and interviews suggest that number will shrink in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/122 "2020-05-17T22:47:47Z")
[State polls suggest Biden has a clear national lead](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/17/politics/state-polls-2020-analysis/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/123 "2020-05-17T23:12:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > His son just accused Biden of being a pedophile. :eek::eek::eek: > [https://www.inquisitr.com/6058081/trump-jr-biden-pedophile/](https://www.inquisitr.com/6058081/trump-jr-biden-pedophile/) Jake Tapper used part of his State of the Union show to note the ramping up of the Trump team’s strategy of smearing opponents: > [@](#): > > …“The criticism from Obama comes at a time when President Trump and his team are launching an unprecedented smear campaign against any rival.” > > "“Leveling wild and false allegations against critics in the media and political rivals that range from bizarre false conspiracy theories to spreading false allegations of pedophilia to even suggesting one TV anchor committed murder. These smear campaigns are unmoored from reality. They’re deranged and indecent and seem designed to distract from us from this horrific health and economic crisis.” … [https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/17/cnns\_jake\_tapper\_trumps\_smear\_campaigns\_are\_becoming\_unmoored\_from\_reality\_deranged\_and\_indecent.html](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/17/cnns_jake_tapper_trumps_smear_campaigns_are_becoming_unmoored_from_reality_deranged_and_indecent.html) It’s going to be pretty much “this Democrat is a pedophile” and “that Democrat is an animal-torturer” and “this other Democrat is in the pay of Nigeria” from here until November. And of course Biden = China, and China “did this to us deliberately” (for any usage of “this”). Trump can’t run on the economy, and he can’t run on being The Outsider who will Fix Washington. All he can do is make the entire thing so ugly and disgusting that people stay home instead of even trying to vote. So that’s what they’re going with. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/124 "2020-05-25T20:48:28Z")
Biden has won the Hawaii primary. No surprise there. Also no surprise: [Biden is running ahead of Clinton’s 2016 pace](https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/politics/biden-clinton-polling-analysis/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/125 "2020-05-25T21:16:19Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > … > > It’s going to be pretty much “this Democrat is a pedophile” … > … Can you give me the winning Lotto numbers please?😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/126 "2020-05-25T23:20:26Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Can you give me the winning Lotto numbers please?😛 Sadly my powers are limited to the political sphere. New prediction for today: Trump is going to move the GOP convention to one of his properties, rake in a ton of cash, and fail to express any condolences to those who fall ill two weeks after the festivities. Also, this week he will double down on the “HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY!!!” scandal by tweeting out “HAPPY HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY!!!”, even though it doesn’t take place until January 27. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/127 "2020-05-25T23:42:26Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > New prediction for today: Trump is going to move the GOP convention to one of his properties, rake in a ton of cash, **and fail to express any condolences to those who fall ill two weeks after the festivities.** They’re just weak. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/128 "2020-05-26T00:15:20Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > They’re just weak. Yeah. And probably secretly Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/129 "2020-05-26T01:35:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sadly my powers are limited to the political sphere. > > New prediction for today: Trump is going to move the GOP convention to one of his properties, rake in a ton of cash, and fail to express any condolences to those who fall ill two weeks after the festivities… Damn, well, in Vegas we can bet on those also. I will meet you there tonite, under Vegas Vic, I will be wearing a leek in the label of my lime green poly leisure suit. I will say “The butterfly cries at dawn” you will say “The peonies are tasty tonight”. Today on FB, somebody _actually_ used trump Jr’s “joke” claiming Biden was a pedo. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/130 "2020-05-26T23:30:19Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Damn, well, in Vegas we can bet on those also. I will meet you there tonite, under Vegas Vic, I will be wearing a leek in the label of my lime green poly leisure suit. I will say “The butterfly cries at dawn” you will say “The peonies are tasty tonight”. > > Today on FB, somebody _actually_ used trump Jr’s “joke” claiming Biden was a pedo. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: It’s all so easy if you have no shame whatsoever. As far as the betting in Vegas (and elsewhere) goes, here’s an interesting perspective from right after the 2016 presidential election: > [@](#): > > … While opinion polls went back and forth leading into Britain’s June 23 referendum on whether or not to remain in the EU, betting odds favored the “remain” campaign. Britons voted to leave by 52 percent to 48 percent. > > A similar trajectory played out on the online trading platform PredictIt, which was launched in 2014 and is jointly run by Victoria University in Wellington, New Zealand, and Washington-based political consulting firm Aristotle International Inc. > > Clinton led Trump in PredictIt’s market on who will win the White House throughout the campaign, but news of her Republican challenger’s surprise momentum sent her chance of winning the election plummeting roughly 75 percentage points from its level Tuesday morning to 5 percent. > > Trump’s chance, meanwhile, shot up more than 40 percentage points to around 65 percent. > > It was the first time in the entire campaign that Trump had led Clinton on the platform… [https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-gambling/trumps-chance-of-victory-skyrockets-on-betting-exchanges-online-market-idUSKBN1332A6](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-gambling/trumps-chance-of-victory-skyrockets-on-betting-exchanges-online-market-idUSKBN1332A6) Last minute reversals seem to be the rule, rather than the exception… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/131 "2020-05-27T01:19:10Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > … > As far as the betting in Vegas (and elsewhere) goes, here’s an interesting perspective from right after the 2016 presidential election: > … You didnt show up.☹ However, I got this great deal on a timeshare…😃 I will still bet on Biden, but I aint giving no adds- even money. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/132 "2020-05-27T13:43:51Z")
**Race** /Topic **Poll** \*\*Results \*_ **Spread** New York: Trump vs. Biden Siena [COLOR=“Black”]Biden 57, Trump 32 Biden +25[/COLOR] Utah: Trump vs. Biden KUTV-2/Y2 Analytics_ [COLOR=“black”]Trump 44, Biden 41 Trump +3[/COLOR] Maryland: Trump vs. Biden Gonzales Research [COLOR=“black”]Biden 59, Trump 35 Biden +24 President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 44, Disapprove 55 Disapprove +11 Minnesota: Trump vs. Biden Star Tribune/Mason-Dixon Biden 49, Trump 44 Biden +5[/COLOR] Utah being that close is nice, that Biden even has a chance says a lot about Trump. [Last Time they voted Dem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_Utah) was 1964 for Johnson. The Republican usually wins by a landslide. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/133 "2020-05-27T19:58:59Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > … > > Utah being that close is nice, that Biden even has a chance says a lot about Trump. [Last Time they voted Dem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_elections_in_Utah) was 1964 for Johnson. The Republican usually wins by a landslide. If Romney comes out for Biden, Utah may turn on trump. But only for that election. I think the Mormons are getting disgusted with trump. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/134 "2020-06-04T20:41:51Z")
**Race/Topic (Click to Sort)- - - - - - - - -Poll- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Results- - - - - - - - - - – -Spread** Florida: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - - - - -CNBC/Change Research (D)- - - - - - -Biden 48, Trump 45- – - - - -Biden +3 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - -CNBC/Change Research (D)- - - - - - -Biden 46, Trump 50- - - - - -Trump +4 Michigan: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - - -CNBC/Change Research (D)- - - - - - -Biden 48, Trump 46- - - - - -Biden +2 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - -CNBC/Change Research (D)- - - - - - -Biden 45, Trump 45- - - - - -Tie Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - -FOX News- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Biden 49, Trump 40- - - - - -Biden +9 Arizona: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - - -CNBC/Change Research (D)- - - - - - - -Biden 44, Trump 45- - - - - -Trump +1 Arizona: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - - -FOX News- - - – - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Biden 46, Trump 42- - - - - -Biden +4 North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden- - - -CNBC/Change Research (D)- - - - - - - --Biden 46, Trump 45- – - - - -Biden +1 North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden- - - Civitas/Harper ®- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Biden 44, Trump 47- - - - - -Trump +3 North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden- - - - -PPP (D)- - - – -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Biden 49, Trump 45- - - - - - - - -Biden +4 Ohio: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - - - - -FOX News- - – -- - - - - - - - - - - – - - - -Biden 45, Trump 43- - - - - - - - -Biden +2 Texas: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - - -Quinnipiac- - – -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Trump 44, Biden 43- - - - - - - - -Trump +1 California: Trump vs. Biden- - - - - - - -PPIC- - - – -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Biden 57, Trump 33- - - - - - - - -Biden +24 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -Emerson- - - - - - - - -Approve 43, Disapprove 50- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +7 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -CNBC- - - - - - - - -Approve 44, Disapprove 56- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +12 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -Politico/Morning Consult- - - - - - - - -Approve 41, Disapprove 55- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +14 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -Economist/YouGov- - - - - - - - -Approve 43, Disapprove 55- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +12 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -CBS News- - - - - - - - -Approve 40, Disapprove 54- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +14 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -IBD/TIPP- - - - - - - - -Approve 42, Disapprove 52- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +10 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -Rasmussen Reports- - - - - - - - -Approve 46, Disapprove 52- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +6 President Trump Job Approval- - - - - - - - -Reuters/Ipsos- - - - - - - - -Approve 40, Disapprove 57- - - - - - - - -Disapprove +17 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/135 "2020-06-04T21:09:28Z")
Those are fucking awful numbers. We’re in the middle of riots that the president is trying to bring tanks into the streets to quell, a complete failure of leadership, and Biden barely leads him in the important places? If there was a good candidate this would be an amazing opportunity to display leadership. If we had an Obama or even a Pete Buttigieg they’d be leading Trump by 15-20 points in battleground states. I can’t believe the democrats have managed to run one of the few candidates that Trump could possibly beat… twice. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/136 "2020-06-04T21:28:58Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Those are fucking awful numbers. We’re in the middle of riots that the president is trying to bring tanks into the streets to quell, a complete failure of leadership, and Biden barely leads him in the important places? If there was a good candidate this would be an amazing opportunity to display leadership. If we had an Obama or even a Pete Buttigieg they’d be leading Trump by 15-20 points in battleground states. > > I can’t believe the democrats have managed to run one of the few candidates that Trump could possibly beat… twice. I’m sad it’s Biden, but there’s no way to know for sure that any other candidate would be doing better, much less “leading Trump by 15-20 points in battleground states”. This is essentially a wild guess. It’s fine to make a wild guess, or a gut-based guess, but that’s all this is. This is how the country is now. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/137 "2020-06-04T21:47:28Z")
It’s a guess, but you have to be pretty uninspiring to be up against a tin pot wannabe dictator who responds to mass protests against police brutality by ordering the police to brutalize people. I don’t know when that poll data was from, so maybe it’s outdated, but there should’ve been a dramatic shift this week. The democrats are playing the “hide away and let Trump hang himself” strategy and I’m not sure it’s going to work. This is such an obvious and easy opportunity for opposition to show leadership and score some points being presidential in a crisis and Biden is mostly hiding away, I’ve barely heard anything about him. So either the democrats are intentionally using this as a strategy, which is needlessly risky, or Biden can’t look good in public, which I suspect could be true. He’s almost 80 and the stresses of a campaign could be rapidly accelerating age related decline. I feel like they’re trying to hide that through the election. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/138 "2020-06-04T23:49:53Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > It’s a guess, but you have to be pretty uninspiring to be up against a tin pot wannabe dictator who responds to mass protests against police brutality by ordering the police to brutalize people. I don’t know when that poll data was from, so maybe it’s outdated, but there should’ve been a dramatic shift this week. > > The democrats are playing the “hide away and let Trump hang himself” strategy and I’m not sure it’s going to work. This is such an obvious and easy opportunity for opposition to show leadership and score some points being presidential in a crisis and Biden is mostly hiding away, I’ve barely heard anything about him. So either the democrats are intentionally using this as a strategy, which is needlessly risky, or Biden can’t look good in public, which I suspect could be true. He’s almost 80 and the stresses of a campaign could be rapidly accelerating age related decline. I feel like they’re trying to hide that through the election. This is how the country is. I’m unconvinced that even with the best progressive candidate in the world against Trump, that we could do better than 50% plus a little bit (basically, what Obama got). We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/139 "2020-06-04T23:51:18Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Those are fucking awful numbers. We’re in the middle of riots that the president is trying to bring tanks into the streets to quell, a complete failure of leadership, and Biden barely leads him in the important places? If there was a good candidate this would be an amazing opportunity to display leadership. If we had an Obama or even a Pete Buttigieg they’d be leading Trump by 15-20 points in battleground states. > I can’t believe the democrats have managed to run one of the few candidates that Trump could possibly beat… twice. It’s virtually certain that those reactions were given to pollsters as much as a week ago. So that’s _not_ a poll of how Americans feel on the 4th of June. It’s much more likely to be how they felt several days earlier—when Trump hadn’t yet brought the tanks to the streets of D.C., etc. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946/140 "2020-06-05T00:06:43Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m sad it’s Biden, but there’s no way to know for sure that any other candidate would be doing better, much less “leading Trump by 15-20 points in battleground states”. This is essentially a wild guess. It’s fine to make a wild guess, or a gut-based guess, but that’s all this is. This is how the country is now. I agree. An oft-used method of attacking the Democratic candidate for President is to claim ‘if only 51% [or similar number] of voters like this candidate, then the Democrats have failed massively.’ It’s virtually never legitimate, for the reasons you cite. The nation is deeply divided. _No_ presidential candidate is going to win 60 - 40 for the foreseeable future.\* \*assuming that free-and-fair elections continue to take place, which is something we used to take for granted, but can’t any longer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-poll-on-biden/851946.md?page=8)