# A pope we have. If the elected cardinal says no, what reasons would he give ?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 13, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855 "2013-03-13T20:36:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gymnopithys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gymnopithys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gymnopithys)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855/1 "2013-03-13T20:36:09Z")

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The elected cardinal has to say to the conclave whether he accepts the papacy. If he declines, what arguments would he put forward ?

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**Author:** ![Jormungandr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@Jormungandr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jormungandr)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855/2 "2013-03-13T20:47:39Z")

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Maybe that’s he too old or ill. I can’t recall anyone who was elected and refused. Supposedly the last time someone was in the running and announced he’d refuse if elected was Cardinal Giovanni Colombo, then Archibishop of Milan, during the second Papal Conclave in 1978 that elected Pope John Paul II.

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**Author:** ![Gymnopithys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gymnopithys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gymnopithys)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855/3 "2013-03-13T20:58:00Z")

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If he has an illness, wouldn’t he have to declare it beforehand ?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855/4 "2013-03-13T21:37:02Z")

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I don’t believe he _has_ to give a reason. What are the other cardinals going to do – throw a white robe over him and shove him onto the balcony?

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855/5 "2013-03-13T23:04:19Z")

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Would we ever know if someone was elected and refused? Given the extreme secrecy of the conclave proceedings, if they simply continued the votes as though the 2/3 majority had never been reached no one outside the conclave would ever know.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-pope-we-have-if-the-elected-cardinal-says-no-what-reasons-would-he-give/652855/6 "2013-03-14T00:08:26Z")

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Reason, eh? Um… not as faithful to the Vatican as Mahony. 😃